Japan v. China (as China)

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Japan v. China (as China)

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So how do you win this from China's end? I know China should win it, but what does China do against Japs in Fortress? Chinese units are good, but charging into a bunch of ashi, nagi, and flaming arrows has ended poorly for me on more than one occasion.

So what do I do? Do I age with the Academy and go in with arqs and my first shipment? Do I mass up? Do I go for the tower.
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Always tower in this MU unless your opponent goes for a consulate rush, which almost never happens.
If he goes age 3, you'll be at least 1 min faster than him => your opponent gets outmassed anyway. Timing once your 9 redcoats have arrived.
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I guess you can ship mortars if you really have trouble vs flaming arrows, but the cav should prob be able to kill them.
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Aggresive ff (academy or tower) is probably your best bet.
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sudmakmak will go insane with this thread

on topic.. I'm not sure, I dont actually play china well, but I would bet on a ff with the earliest timming.. i'm quite sure that china can get to jap base with arq +cav + intervention before jap op eco kicks in in colo (or before he has anything very significant if he FF'd).... but I would need to test to be sure..
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Standard stuff. Age up with tower, make only cav, send 9 musketeers and 10 arquebusiers. Timing push depending on army sizes. If he makes naginatas boosted with wonder and the 30% hitpoints card (almost everyone does this against China), send manchu. You should win the game with your first 3-4 shipments, otherwise his units will be unbeatable. Especially cav with 495 hitpoints that you do not beat without manchu.
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Esoc Team?
Next tournament jap are 1st top than germany and evey civs.
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sudmakmak wrote:Esoc Team?
Next tournament jap are 1st top than germany and evey civs.

japan is mid tier rofl
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sudmakmak wrote:Esoc Team?
Next tournament jap are 1st top than germany and evey civs.


German creams Japan because of fast age as far as I know (pros plz confirm). They can have skirms and vet uhlans out by the time Japan has aged up.
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Papist wrote:
sudmakmak wrote:Esoc Team?
Next tournament jap are 1st top than germany and evey civs.


German creams Japan because of fast age as far as I know (pros plz confirm). They can have skirms and vet uhlans out by the time Japan has aged up.


not . germany can rush. but don't rush . germany can't win
japan have best and more = op
very good Pros,very good benefit and very good property = op
everythink for japan op
but everyone think It's ok.??????????? OK????!!!!
OK = favorite japan civ = Personal feelings
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sudmakmak wrote:
Papist wrote:
sudmakmak wrote:Esoc Team?
Next tournament jap are 1st top than germany and evey civs.


German creams Japan because of fast age as far as I know (pros plz confirm). They can have skirms and vet uhlans out by the time Japan has aged up.


not . germany can rush. but don't rush . germany can't win
japan have best and more = op
very good Pros,very good benefit and very good property = op
everythink for japan op
but everyone think It's ok.??????????? OK????!!!!
OK = favorite japan civ = Personal feelings


lol

japan consulate rush bald pikeman blind archer = op
black xiii t japan aggrsive = op
japan can rush but dont rush japan can win
japan eco game best = op
why everythink japan okk it = op
op
japan top civ = op
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sudmakmak wrote:
Papist wrote:
sudmakmak wrote:Esoc Team?
Next tournament jap are 1st top than germany and evey civs.


German creams Japan because of fast age as far as I know (pros plz confirm). They can have skirms and vet uhlans out by the time Japan has aged up.


not . germany can rush. but don't rush . germany can't win
japan have best and more = op
very good Pros,very good benefit and very good property = op
everythink for japan op
but everyone think It's ok.??????????? OK????!!!!
OK = favorite japan civ = Personal feelings

i feel your english
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sudmakmak wrote:
Papist wrote:
sudmakmak wrote:Esoc Team?
Next tournament jap are 1st top than germany and evey civs.


German creams Japan because of fast age as far as I know (pros plz confirm). They can have skirms and vet uhlans out by the time Japan has aged up.


not . germany can rush. but don't rush . germany can't win
japan have best and more = op
very good Pros,very good benefit and very good property = op
everythink for japan op
but everyone think It's ok.??????????? OK????!!!!
OK = favorite japan civ = Personal feelings


You should play a few games as japan, just to feel the civ and better understand their vulnerability...

Imo thats the best thing to do in any case where you fell something is broken op..
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not . germany can rush. but don't rush . germany can't win
japan have best and more = op
very good Pros,very good benefit and very good property = op
everythink for japan op
but everyone think It's ok.??????????? OK????!!!!
OK = favorite japan civ = Personal feelings


lol

japan consulate rush bald pikeman blind archer = op
black xiii t japan aggrsive = op
japan can rush but dont rush japan can win
japan eco game best = op
why everythink japan okk it = op
op
japan top civ = op


I mean gernany rush to japanese. not japan rush.
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sudmakmak wrote:They can trainer Yojimbo .It op


https://www.twitch.tv/mongo10_/v/54074041
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sudmakmak wrote:
sudmakmak wrote:They can trainer Yojimbo .It op


https://www.twitch.tv/mongo10_/v/54074041
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french>japan but german dont. 2 cannons are the main difference.

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