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the bias towards india and jap, and even china to a lesser extend is strong atm. Why is that you may ask ? My explanation would be that they had been top civs for literally the whole tad era before the EP was released. With EP release´ new OP civs emerged and suddenly jap india and co werent unbeatable anymore and felt "weak " instead of OP. This makes people inclined to rate them lower than they actually are. Especially japan is still within the top 5 or 6, maybe even better, in the EP rating imo.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:Urumis are ok but you gotta send a shipment, so you'll have 20 urumis and that's all. Tigers are bad in late game. Sepoys are very good musketeers but musketeers are rather bad in late game, so the only great unit they have is the gurkhas.
The elephants are all terrible lol.



I have no problem sending shipments of urumi late game. I do not like using chakrams (2kcoin) and war eles (1k coin) anymore because in a TR I would rather save my coin and fight with my reg army longer, doing that I don't need 100 vills on food and have room to train urumi. 750F is very affordable for india for that power spike mixed with mahouts and tigers create a melee wall that kills anything. I totally disagree about tigers being used late game.... how are they bad? they are one of indias greatest strengths. And I notice that without them india pretty much just holds in place but with them take the advantage. I see them used in nearly all TR games, why is that? Even though elephants are clumsy and train a long time and most would prefer hussars, the truth is when you use them right, (takes micro and attack move Z so they do not like walk all over the place not fighting) they kill skirms faster than anything else. So with all those area attack units can be devastating to other armies. In FFA as well there is less map walling, so the open space really plays well into indias melee and ability to jump bases.
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yeah all this shit about india being bottom tier is bs, same with japan
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Hazza54321 wrote:yeah all this shit about india being bottom tier is bs, same with japan

japan is mid not bs tier ^^
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KINGofOsmane wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:yeah all this shit about india being bottom tier is bs, same with japan

japan is mid not bs tier ^^

yeah that was what i was saying :)
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Hazza54321 wrote:
KINGofOsmane wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:yeah all this shit about india being bottom tier is bs, same with japan

japan is mid not bs tier ^^

yeah that was what i was saying :)

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lordraphael wrote:the bias towards india and jap, and even china to a lesser extend is strong atm. Why is that you may ask ? My explanation would be that they had been top civs for literally the whole tad era before the EP was released. With EP release´ new OP civs emerged and suddenly jap india and co werent unbeatable anymore and felt "weak " instead of OP. This makes people inclined to rate them lower than they actually are. Especially japan is still within the top 5 or 6, maybe even better, in the EP rating imo.

I agree with this sentiment. Well, china feels kinda overrated (often placed as the number three civ) actually, but yes india and japan are rated very poorly for how strong they feel. People like mankl rate civs with france and germany in mind I think, which makes a civ feel weak quite quickly. Even british are apperantly trash.
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Yep pretty much this.
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How is British trash if they only lose to India, Otto? According to dia, Brit also beat china and do well vs Ger and fre
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_DB_ wrote:How is British trash if they only lose to India, Otto? According to dia, Brit also beat china and do well vs Ger and fre

Firstly, is everything diarouga says correct? lel, germans > brit , brit dont do well, they can only do "ok" or shit xD
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sirmusket wrote:
_DB_ wrote:How is British trash if they only lose to India, Otto? According to dia, Brit also beat china and do well vs Ger and fre

Firstly, is everything diarouga says correct?


Yes.
He did not say that Brit beat ger, they just do well vs ger.

Your statement that is Ger>British is true for overall civ strength in terms of all match ups.

But in the specific ger vs british match up, diarouga theories have proved that
Ger<Brit on no TP maps,
on EP Brit>=Ger, on

Only on RE, Ger>>Brit (shit hunts)
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Ger is slightly better than brit but brit is one of the best civs vs ger.
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_H2O wrote:Disagree would rather be Spain than india.



just cause of the 300 tps on every map
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_DB_ wrote:How is British trash if they only lose to India, Otto? According to dia, Brit also beat china and do well vs Ger and fre

Theyre trash because they arent germany or france. Not according to me but according to some people. I think brits are quite strong and more importantly, their mu against germany is pretty okay which makes them interesting for tournaments.
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lol brit against germany pretty okay

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I could see how Brit vs Germany is pretty good at the highest levels. The MU is pretty german-favoured lower simply due to raiding and the difficulty in managing the massive amount of vills Brit has.
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its pretty german favored at the high level as well :D
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But then again, what isnt?
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I keep checking to see if this topic gets back to india..... nope not yet.
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RE poor maps are good for brit imo. not for german.
brit can build rax in middle of the map and give german strong age 2 pressure. and german will find him struggleing with no food gold then.
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india is strongest civ. If u try to age india reks u. if u stay age 2 india reks u. ur rekked
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Couprider wrote:RE poor maps are good for brit imo. not for german.
brit can build rax in middle of the map and give german strong age 2 pressure. and german will find him struggleing with no food gold then.

Ye except germans can also bow rush
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Zhanson10 wrote:india is strongest civ. If u try to age india reks u. if u stay age 2 india reks u. ur rekked

If you try to age, you age and you win.
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the only way I can beat the timing push from an india player after I hit age 3 is by having vet musks combined with cannons to defend my base. If I try other combos I get rekked by the timing push
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Well that checks out then. Indians struggle against artillery.

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