ESOC Memes

[sebnan12]

I wouldve liked the meme but the "tbqh ngl" on top made me not do it

[Sargsyan]

I wouldve liked the meme but the "tbqh ngl" on top made me not do it

spot on

[lejend]

I wouldve liked the meme but the "tbqh ngl" on top made me not do it

Beating myself for not going with 'it really do be like that sometimes'

[Plantinator]

Tbh the devs dont rly give a shit. If they did they would have reworked the campaign audios too where for example the word iroquois is used a lot.
And some shit is just ridicolous like changing the term colonial militia. Are we gonna ignore the fact they were colonies all together becuz thats way more comfy? Just imagine if other games did that. Thats kinda like if the game was set in WW2 and they never mention the germans were bad people lol.

[voigt1240]

Why do we go with euphemisms and the like when it clashes with historical settings. Just call it what it is, it's part of our history.

[lejend]

actual nazi meme gtfo

edit ok just for context the comic is Stonetoss, which is a comic strip written by an actual nazi. The implication of the meme is that there's some sinister reason for adding Native American representation to AoE3 (or substitute that for any generally liberal idea). If you know the context of the strip, the reason implied is that the Jews are trying to push diversity on America in order to undermine the white race

i know that not everyone who uses stonetoss comics is a nazi themselves but whenever I see this shit floating around the internet i feel the need to point it out. i don't like seeing alt-right / nazi shit on esoc tbh

That's not the implication of the meme at all. There's no references to Jews or Nazis in the image. It's just making fun of the game developers for engaging in pointless culture wars instead of focusing on making the game fun and playable

[Kaiserklein]

Do we pretend jews weren't gassed? Why would we pretend natives weren't massacred

[vividlyplain]

People read too much into memes. They’re jokes, take it or leave it but recognize they’re jokes.

[deleted_user]

Lots of ESOC users have enjoyed posting Stonetoss comics for a long time, including some old staff members!

[fightinfrenchman]

People read too much into memes. They’re jokes, take it or leave it but recognize they’re jokes.

Jokes generally mean something though

[Mr_Bramboy]

Separate the art from the artist!



This is a beautiful painting. Now, can we get back to ESOC memes?

[scarm]

You can't separate something with an inherent political meaning from the creator though.

[Mr_Bramboy]

You can't separate something with an inherent political meaning from the creator though.

Correct, but if you change the context mean to fit AoE3, surely the original inherent political meaning is lost?

[scarm]

I am 50/50 on that to be honest. On the one hand yes.

On the other you are still spreading awareness for a dude who is blatantly nazi and contributing to make his ideology more public and maybe visible to some people, who will be vulnerable to believe und spread it further. Essentially it is a part of perpetuating racist, anti-semitic propaganda. Even this discussion in this thread, while in good faith may be read by someone who now searches that dude, finds him funny and starts to believe his bullshit, radicalising in the process. Is a cheap laugh and a like really worth that?

I know you will probably say that i am dramatizing, and as i said i am 50/50 on it. In the end it is probably a personal decision to make.

[Squamiger]

im not saying we should ban stonetoss comics from here. im just going to call you a nazi if you support the ideas the comic promotes.

[[Armag] diarouga]

What's the issue ? Is it that tribal thing again ?

[I_HaRRiiSoN_I]

Can we keep this to memes only,

[Rohbrot]

@jesus3 , has to speak!

[[Armag] diarouga]

im not saying we should ban stonetoss comics from here. im just going to call you a nazi if you support the ideas the comic promotes.

Actually took a look at these since I didn't know about it, and I had a great laugh.
I'm pretty sure I could make a stonetoss comics about your comment

[lejend]

You guys do realize it's not an actual stonetoss meme, right? It's pretty obvious I made it myself in Paint, lmfao

Just because a meme format is based on a racist comic doesn't mean every meme using that format is racist. That's like saying all countryball memes are racist against Polish people

[Squamiger]

im not saying we should ban stonetoss comics from here. im just going to call you a nazi if you support the ideas the comic promotes.

Actually took a look at these since I didn't know about it, and I had a great laugh.
I'm pretty sure I could make a stonetoss comics about your comment

good, hope you have a blast off in neckbeard land

[sebnan12]

N E R D

[Mr_Bramboy]

I am 50/50 on that to be honest. On the one hand yes.

On the other you are still spreading awareness for a dude who is blatantly nazi and contributing to make his ideology more public and maybe visible to some people, who will be vulnerable to believe und spread it further. Essentially it is a part of perpetuating racist, anti-semitic propaganda. Even this discussion in this thread, while in good faith may be read by someone who now searches that dude, finds him funny and starts to believe his bullshit, radicalising in the process. Is a cheap laugh and a like really worth that?

I know you will probably say that i am dramatizing, and as i said i am 50/50 on it. In the end it is probably a personal decision to make.

I can see the problem of giving exposure to problematic authors. I had not thought of this issue so thank you for bringing it up. Overall I would say the scenario you are sketching is ambitious and unlikely to happen .. but who knows. Hopefully this page of discussion will stop that scenario from playing out.

I believe the vast majority of viewers in this thread will view meme, laugh, and continue scrolling.

[gibson]

Separate the art from the artist!



This is a beautiful painting. Now, can we get back to ESOC memes?

Nah, cause art isn’t just what’s on the page, it’s about the creator, the means of creation, and potentially many other things. Why do you think the monalisa is worth 7 digits today? It’s not just because of the oil on the page I’ll tell you that

[SoldieR]

How dare you try to take this topic away from us? Mods, I order these troll posts deleted immediately!
No-one messes with Meme topic