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France ronaldo7
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09 Jun 2017, 12:05

i think
-BlackStar_Op
-H2O_
-Lordraphael
-Samwise12
-Snowww
-Nagayumi
-Goongoon
-Princeofkabul
-Mitoe
-Garja
-Boneng
-Diarouga
-Aizamk
-Kiljardy
-Acergame09 (Soldier,venivedivici, badspeed,goodspeed mongo10)
Now I would like your opinion pls
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09 Jun 2017, 12:07

I'd omit Garja and Boneng, and maybe aizamk. Realistically those three haven't achieved anything. Badspeed, mongo and veni deserve those spots way more.

Also Kynesie easily, Kiljardi for Kynesie imo.
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India _RDX_
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09 Jun 2017, 12:10

They have nothing to achieve, cuz they're unique.
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India Challenger_Marco
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09 Jun 2017, 12:10

"ronaldo7"

U new here?
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India _RDX_
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09 Jun 2017, 12:14

Challenger_Marco wrote:
"ronaldo7"

U new here?

I think he probably posted for fun. :biggrin:
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France ronaldo7
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09 Jun 2017, 12:14

why?
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India Challenger_Marco
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09 Jun 2017, 12:21

Omg why there is no IrishFaithful GoD?
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IrishFaithful!!!! 15
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09 Jun 2017, 12:27

For me its:

LordRaphael (Won once, 2nd place and finalist right now)
BSOP (Won once, finalist)
H2O (Won once, two 2nd places)
Samwise (Won once)
Acergame (2nd place)
(these are all the finalists)
Kynesie (top 8 spring and summer, 3rd place winter, top 16 autumn)
Mongo10 (top 8 winter, 3rd place autumn)
Diarouga (Invitational winner, 4th place winter, top 8 autumn, top 16 summer)
Goongoon (3rd place Summer, top 8 autumn'
Veni (only participated once, 3rd place Spring)
Mitoe(top 8 in summer and winter, top 16 autumn and in the current tournament 3rd or 4th place, also top 4 in esoc invitational)

From there onwards its rough: Nagayumi, Badspeed and Irishfaithful have a 4th place but no other results. Kaiserklein has a third or fourth place finish in this tournament but I'd argue his bracket was extremely easy. That does make 15 though, and resultwise there are no other people that ever finished top 4.

The other people that could contest this don't even have more than one RO8 apperance: Soldier and Kiljardi (Spring), Fard (Summer), Boneng and Marechal_Rondon (Winter), Garja, Somppu and Aizamk (Autumn) and Stanley, Knusch, Tit and Snowww (Spring#2). Out of these only Snowww has been decent enough to deserve the spot in that list imo. Princeofkabul has had some unlucky brackets and a 2nd place in the esoc invitational, but that doesn't seem worth that much, but I could consider calling him a top15 player.
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Singapore milku3459
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09 Jun 2017, 12:42

Jerom wrote:...maybe aizamk... haven't achieved anything.


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Germany eulergauss
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09 Jun 2017, 12:48

1. H2O
2. Blackstar
3. Samwise
4. LordRaphael
5. IrishFaithful
6. MusketJr
7. diarouga
8. Mitoe
9. snowww
10. goongoon
11. nagayumi
12. Acergame
13. mongo10
14. Prince
15. Veni

close to top 15: Kaiserklein, kynesie, Aizamk, Umeu, Soldier, WickedCossack, Garja, Boneng, Knuschelbär, Goodspeed, Uhlan, Hazza
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France Kaiserklein
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09 Jun 2017, 13:00

Jerom wrote:Kaiserklein has a third or fourth place finish in this tournament but I'd argue his bracket was extremely easy.

Isn't "extremely easy" slightly exaggerated?
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09 Jun 2017, 13:12

Kaiserklein wrote:
Jerom wrote:Kaiserklein has a third or fourth place finish in this tournament but I'd argue his bracket was extremely easy.

Isn't "extremely easy" slightly exaggerated?


this jerom is very troll :hehe: :maniac: :hehe: :maniac: :hehe: :maniac:
Jerom is this guy >>>
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France bwinner
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09 Jun 2017, 13:23

    Kaiserklein wrote:
    Jerom wrote:Kaiserklein has a third or fourth place finish in this tournament but I'd argue his bracket was extremely easy.

    Isn't "extremely easy" slightly exaggerated?

    Yeah, Knusch was in a really good shape (look his match in RO16) and Kaiser vs Lordraph was the best match so far Imo
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    China fei123456
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    09 Jun 2017, 13:29

    goodspeed and H2O are the Twin Stars of ESOC.

    imo
    tier 1: h2o, blackstar
    tier 2: goodspeed, samwise12, lordraphael, acergame09
    tier 3: others
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    Finland princeofkabul
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    09 Jun 2017, 13:34

    im happy that im considered to be called a top 15 player by jeruma < 3
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    Sweden Gendarme
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    09 Jun 2017, 13:35

    You are Fifteenmaster after all.
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    Finland princeofkabul
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    09 Jun 2017, 14:02

    Okay guys you heard it from here first. current skill levels. some players been cut from the list because we have no idea about their 1v1 standing at the moment. (Veni, Musketjr, Acergame, Kiljardi) Wickedcossack and roiarthurbis is one big mystery for me.

    1. Blackstar_OP slightly > _H20 because strategic decisions and adaptation > mechanics in aoe. Samwise12 equals them both.
    2. Lordraphael
    3. Garj... Nagayumi
    4. Diarouga
    5. Irishfaithful
    6. Current Mitoe and me in par, as Garja it might sound i wasn't really prepared for well prepared mitoe this tournament due to some in real life shit going on and had very poor choices of matchups and strategies in the series and eventually it cost me the series.
    7. Kaiserklein and goongoon in par currently is safe to say in my opinion.
    8. Current Erik.
    9. Knushcelbär
    10. Aizamk
    11. Umeu
    12. Hazza54321
    13. Uhlan
    14. Thelastsamurai
    15. Garja, always good mechanics but incredible retarded in game decisions and strategies decrease the overall skills much.
    16. Lahme

    0. SomppuGOD

    Judging overall skill entirely because of tournaments is just very stupid, taking Irishfaithful as an example who went 50 / 50 or even better vs Ryan in a mirror matchup.
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    09 Jun 2017, 14:10

    bwinner1 wrote:
      Kaiserklein wrote:
      Jerom wrote:Kaiserklein has a third or fourth place finish in this tournament but I'd argue his bracket was extremely easy.

      Isn't "extremely easy" slightly exaggerated?

      Yeah, Knusch was in a really good shape (look his match in RO16) and Kaiser vs Lordraph was the best match so far Imo

      My favorite was Goodspeed vs Raphael plz play more and show these nubz the real power of the sciencific approach @Goodspeed :love: :love: :love:
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      Tuvalu gibson
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      09 Jun 2017, 14:14

      Jerom wrote:I'd omit Garja and Boneng, and maybe aizamk. Realistically those three haven't achieved anything. Badspeed, mongo and veni deserve those spots way more.

      Also Kynesie easily, Kiljardi for Kynesie imo.
      Ye boneng hasnt won anything if you ignore the largest community funded tournament in the history of aoe3
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      09 Jun 2017, 14:18

      Kaiserklein wrote:
      Jerom wrote:Kaiserklein has a third or fourth place finish in this tournament but I'd argue his bracket was extremely easy.

      Isn't "extremely easy" slightly exaggerated?

      Maybe a bit, but I'd say I'd consider replacing you in my top15 by prince. You ended up beating Soldier and Knusch to lose to lordraphael basically. I must admit I'm a bit of a princeofkabul fanboy because I like his playstyle but he's always lost to some top dogs: Mitoe (this one), H2O (Winter), Samwise (Summer). I feel like there are more players out there that could've topped Soldier (in current shape) and knusch. If you look at other (potential) fourth place finishes: Mitoe beating Snowww, Prince and TLS, Irish beating Soldier, Knusch and Aizamk, MusketJR beating BSOP, Marechal and Somppu. Only other fourth place that had a pretty easy bracket is Diarouga (Marechal, lukas, Stanley) but he also won the esoc invitational so he definitely deserves that top 15 spot. So what I'm saying basically is that if you go purely off of tournaments results you're either number 15 or number 16. If I would go with my subjective opinion I'd probably find that somewhat on the high end.
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      09 Jun 2017, 14:18

      gibson wrote:
      Jerom wrote:I'd omit Garja and Boneng, and maybe aizamk. Realistically those three haven't achieved anything. Badspeed, mongo and veni deserve those spots way more.

      Also Kynesie easily, Kiljardi for Kynesie imo.
      Ye boneng hasnt won anything if you ignore the largest community funded tournament in the history of aoe3

      Read title of the topic?
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      Finland princeofkabul
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      09 Jun 2017, 14:35

      hmmh oh yeah you're going full on esoc tournament results. according to the topic either XD got a bit carried away here.
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      Austria knusch
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      09 Jun 2017, 14:43

      princeofkabul wrote:Okay guys you heard it from here first. current skill levels. some players been cut from the list because we have no idea about their 1v1 standing at the moment. (Veni, Musketjr, Acergame, Kiljardi) Wickedcossack and roiarthurbis is one big mystery for me.

      1. Blackstar_OP slightly > _H20 because strategic decisions and adaptation > mechanics in aoe. Samwise12 equals them both.
      2. Lordraphael
      3. Garj... Nagayumi
      4. Diarouga
      5. Irishfaithful
      6. Current Mitoe and me in par, as Garja it might sound i wasn't really prepared for well prepared mitoe this tournament due to some in real life shit going on and had very poor choices of matchups and strategies in the series and eventually it cost me the series.
      7. Kaiserklein and goongoon in par currently is safe to say in my opinion.
      8. Current Erik.
      9. Knushcelbär
      10. Aizamk
      11. Umeu
      12. Hazza54321
      13. Uhlan
      14. Thelastsamurai
      15. Garja, always good mechanics but incredible retarded in game decisions and strategies decrease the overall skills much.
      16. Lahme

      0. SomppuGOD

      Judging overall skill entirely because of tournaments is just very stupid, taking Irishfaithful as an example who went 50 / 50 or even better vs Ryan in a mirror matchup.


      u gonna rank yourself above me, like for real?????!!!! :mad:
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      09 Jun 2017, 14:44

      The original post leaves some room for interpretation surely. I had nothing to do so I took a look at tournament results from spring onwards.
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      Finland princeofkabul
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      09 Jun 2017, 14:46

      knusch wrote:
      princeofkabul wrote:Okay guys you heard it from here first. current skill levels. some players been cut from the list because we have no idea about their 1v1 standing at the moment. (Veni, Musketjr, Acergame, Kiljardi) Wickedcossack and roiarthurbis is one big mystery for me.

      1. Blackstar_OP slightly > _H20 because strategic decisions and adaptation > mechanics in aoe. Samwise12 equals them both.
      2. Lordraphael
      3. Garj... Nagayumi
      4. Diarouga
      5. Irishfaithful
      6. Current Mitoe and me in par, as Garja it might sound i wasn't really prepared for well prepared mitoe this tournament due to some in real life shit going on and had very poor choices of matchups and strategies in the series and eventually it cost me the series.
      7. Kaiserklein and goongoon in par currently is safe to say in my opinion.
      8. Current Erik.
      9. Knushcelbär
      10. Aizamk
      11. Umeu
      12. Hazza54321
      13. Uhlan
      14. Thelastsamurai
      15. Garja, always good mechanics but incredible retarded in game decisions and strategies decrease the overall skills much.
      16. Lahme

      0. SomppuGOD

      Judging overall skill entirely because of tournaments is just very stupid, taking Irishfaithful as an example who went 50 / 50 or even better vs Ryan in a mirror matchup.


      u gonna rank yourself above me, like for real?????!!!! :mad:


      haha ez, get on my level skrub
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