... takes too long to understand

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Jerimuno is not Jerom
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>falling for Hazza's smurf trolling

I mean, he does have a point, but just sayin'!
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>too stupid to realise its not actually me
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>implying I keep track of your smurfs

There's more to life than ESO and AOE3, ya kno.
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Theres more to life than following me everywhere on eso and aoe3 and doing your best to insult me and then cry like a little bitch when i retaliate
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Setler india = 70w or 80w
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Hazza54321 wrote:Theres more to life than following me everywhere on eso and aoe3 and doing your best to insult me and then cry like a little bitch when i retaliate

I don't watch anything that you do anywhere. You're basically insignificant from any point of view, in my book.

I think the fact that you somehow got into the first 100 players in a dead game played by 15 people somehow got to your head and now you think you're some kind of VIP.

You don't have anything to say that could possibly create any shadow of doubt in my mind. And it's ironic you project this "cry like a little bitch" onto me, when it was you sending me a direct message on Twitch asking me why am I taking the piss on you. It was just too upsetting for you, I suppose. ^^
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lol wtf is happening here XD
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I will fight for my General!

Die Dolan!
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Can we have a grudge match?
How did this beef start though, can we have some backstory?
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deleted_user wrote:I will fight for my General!

Die Dolan!

you still think general52 is hazza ?
Lol its iamgrunt, hes back!
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Dolan wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:Theres more to life than following me everywhere on eso and aoe3 and doing your best to insult me and then cry like a little bitch when i retaliate

I don't watch anything that you do anywhere. You're basically insignificant from any point of view, in my book.

I think the fact that you somehow got into the first 100 players in a dead game played by 15 people somehow got to your head and now you think you're some kind of VIP.

You don't have anything to say that could possibly create any shadow of doubt in my mind. And it's ironic you project this "cry like a little bitch" onto me, when it was you sending me a direct message on Twitch asking me why am I taking the piss on you. It was just too upsetting for you, I suppose. ^^


Why are you still here if its a dead game no one cares about? This is so disrespectful to people who put time effort and money into this game. Hazza is hazza no different from when he was 1st lt and some people just do what they enjoy instead of jumping on the bandwagon
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Method_man714 wrote:
Dolan wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:Theres more to life than following me everywhere on eso and aoe3 and doing your best to insult me and then cry like a little bitch when i retaliate

I don't watch anything that you do anywhere. You're basically insignificant from any point of view, in my book.

I think the fact that you somehow got into the first 100 players in a dead game played by 15 people somehow got to your head and now you think you're some kind of VIP.

You don't have anything to say that could possibly create any shadow of doubt in my mind. And it's ironic you project this "cry like a little bitch" onto me, when it was you sending me a direct message on Twitch asking me why am I taking the piss on you. It was just too upsetting for you, I suppose. ^^


... Hazza is no different from when he was 1st lt ...


yea
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Method_man714 wrote:Why are you still here if its a dead game no one cares about? This is so disrespectful to people who put time effort and money into this game. Hazza is hazza no different from when he was 1st lt and some people just do what they enjoy instead of jumping on the bandwagon

Good question. I actually left the forum a few times. I only came back to discuss some topics I was interested in mostly in the off-topic section. I rarely, almost never, post anything about AOE3, even tho it's still my all-time favourite game. Too bad I can't play it anymore because I don't have time and the game is technically very old and many people lag while playing it.

Nah, I know how Hazza was a few years ago, I talked to him on Skype, he was a much more modest lad. Now he's got on this high horse and doesn't know how to take a joke anymore. He should learn more from Garja, who knows how to take a joke without getting upset. It's part of growing up. Hazza still has this lil kid ego "me > you" sort of attitude. That's funny until you lose to some of the real top players like Diarouga and then you get mad, because you realise your ego was a bit overinflated.

I can take a joke, I can take criticism, no problem, it keeps me grounded and motivates me to improve.
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This thread really took a turn
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Who is this dolan guy? Sounds like just another dr legend smurf. And excuse me but harry was and still is one of the most modest people around especially for someone who plays at his level
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rsy wrote:Who is this dolan guy? Sounds like just another dr legend smurf. And excuse me but harry was and still is one of the most modest people around especially for someone who plays at his level

Dolan was the creator of this website.
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gibson wrote:All the asain explorer rng features are bullshit and stupid tbh

Yeah I'd love ep to remove that. I mean it's just pure luck it makes no sense
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That would be such a huge nerf though. Maybe make them castable abilities or something.
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Yeah give whatever buff instead if needed. As long as it's not just a totally random mechanic
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It's not even that impactful 99% of the time anyway.

I'm pretty sure people would complain way more about Indian monks being able to cast stomp than it being an RNG ability anyway lol. And India is really the only civ I think you could argue this is even a problem, really. Divine Strike is rarely useful vs units and Crits are great but really only impactful in the early game, and in general not even a big balance issue IMO.
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Well yeah the stomp can be huge in fights or in age 1 treasure contentions. The divine strike is mostly huge for treasure contentions, but also for example to one shoot a rather low hp nat scout, or one shooting pikes sieging your shrines. Critical hits are dumb but not super impactful thats true, but turning a dead unit into a free disciple can be.
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Mitoe in one post you say its not relevant 99% of the time and the next you say removing it would be a huge nerf. The point isnt even about how big of a deal these abilites can and cannot be, the point is there shouldnt be rng abilities like that in an rts game.
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gibson wrote:Mitoe in one post you say its not relevant 99% of the time and the next you say removing it would be a huge nerf. The point isnt even about how big of a deal these abilites can and cannot be, the point is there shouldnt be rng abilities like that in an rts game.

Sorry I should have clarified. It's a huge nerf to their age 1: absolutely colossal. I feel like this is also the point in time where this affects the other player the least.

Later in the game I feel like the abilities don't really matter at all. A good stomp can still net you an advantage in a trade, but most of the time not really. Divine Strike is virtually worthless once unit counts eclipse like 10-15+, and once you get higher tech and higher HP units. Crits are good, but overall it just increases their average DPS by about 20-30% and isn't really a big issue, IMO.

Basically these abilities are essential in age 1:

China is full melee and can't really kite treasures the same way most other civs can. They can do it, of course, but it's much harder/slower and with greater risk, I would argue.

Japan is also pretty reliant on Divine Strike for treasuring, and removing it would hurt their early game a lot. It's also pretty nice to be able to scare off scouts at a lower hp than normal and that sort of thing, which is important because you want to dissuade them from harassing you while you're shrining in transition, and losing those monks as a result of not having it would be a huge blow. In general really the Divine Strike--similarly to China--just increases their average DPS by about 10-20%, and there's also a bit of skill involved in using it, such as retargeting monks onto low hp units in small skirmishes, for example.

India is already pretty weak in age 1, although the stomp is definitely annoying sometimes here when they manage to get lucky and steal a treasure as a result of it. I'm actually uncertain exactly how removing or changing this would affect them, because you can't fight an enemy unit on top of treasure guardians because of the risk of aggroing the treasure guardians with stomp, but at the same time it's quite good when it does go off while you're treasuring or fighting the enemy explorer (it's also the only way to escape an enemy explorer while snared if your other monk is dead or too far), and also in relatively small unit numbers (e.g. when sepoy rushing against a crossbow defense or defending a Russian strelet rush etc.). I can definitely see the argument for making some kind of change for India here, but I would rather have it as a casted ability than removing it altogether.


After the early game (say, 6 or 7 minutes) I think they're mostly irrelevant.
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Please keep nerdy AoE 3 discussion off the sacred off topic section
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How exactly are divine strikes "huge" for treasure contentions? They don't seem to change much of the procedure to me, it just forces both players to watch the treasure more carefully. I mean it's not like divine strikes favour either player at a contention xD Just helps Japan secure uncontested treasures a bit faster.
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