Here to report cheater

[Garja]

I love how everyone is trying to go against me as if I did something terribly wrong.
He intentionally right clicked his Sioux explorer across the map to my base at the beginning of the game to exactly have that situation. Knowing me he probably did it even more on purpose to annoy me more. On top of that, speaking of pull trick, he obviously pull tricked his explorer randomly out of another treasure contention (previous game). This was so much deserved.
If he apologize for that, then I can apologize for the drop.

[deleted_user]

23 Then the IamSoldier, when he had crucified Garja, took his Elo, and made four parts, to every IamSoldier Smurf a part; and also his PR: now the PR was without loss, woven from the drop trick.

24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the Twitch Chat might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my Elo among them, and for my PR they did cast lots. These things therefore the IamSoldier Smurfs did.

[giveuanxiety]

Wtf, he is trying to say smart gameplay means you should get dropped. Is this actually happening...

[giveuanxiety]

Obviously some sort of action needs to be taken. He is hacking and manipulating seeding in a $4K tournament.

[Cometk]

[deleted_user]

31 The ESOCians therefore, because it was the preparation, that the streaks should not remain upon the ESOC Ladder on the Monday, (for that Monday was an Monday,) besought Mitoe that their streaks might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

32 Then came the IamSoldier, and brake the streak of the smurf, and of the other which was resigned with him.

33 But when they came to Garja, and saw that he was lost already, they brake not his streak:

34 But one of the IamSoldiers with a Sioux stole his treasure, and forthwith came there out salt.

35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.

36 For these things were done, that the Twitch Chat should be fulfilled, A loss of him shall not be recorded.

37 And again another Twitch Chat saith, They shall look on him whom they stole from.

[SoldieR]

Thanks for fixing it, whomever you computer engineering genius

[EAGLEMUT]

This is disappointing to see. I'm not sure how the admins want to proceed here, but as a quick solution I have manually recalculated both players' Elos as if Soldier had won the match, while it's still somewhat easily reversible. As of now, I have not banned Garja from the ladder, since that's not easy to take back and frankly I hope it doesn't need to come to that.

He intentionally sent the explorer across the map to my base area to exactly have that situation. Knowing me he probably did it even more on purpose to annoy me more.

Droptricking is a serious offense and obviously not an appropriate response to an opponent "laming" by sending his warchief to your base and sniping off your hero. Please take a step back and think about how you'd feel if someone droptricked you because they considered your play to be laming/annoying or because their attack move was bugging out.

[Garja]

Obviously some sort of action needs to be taken. He is hacking and manipulating seeding in a $4K tournament.

Wtf, he is trying to say smart gameplay means you should get dropped. Is this actually happening...

Can I lmao a bit too? Yes I can.
Not only this is a pathetic attempt to exclude a player (probably at ylur own advantage), but it is also straight up bs. Both me and Soldier have other seeding accounts. Especially him, he has another top10 account. I couldnt care less about elo and seeding. I didnt evem expect the drop to work as my advantage in terms of ladder result. I just did it because a conventional resign was simply noy deserved there.
As for the referred smart play, it is not. If it wasnt for me taking the nootka to literally prevent his future laming all this 'smart play' wouldnt even happen. He would simply lose cooldown time on the WC convert ability by not usong it on the first treasures he finds. This is especially sad because EP maps genrally jave too many treasures whuch make this retarded meta gaming possible (normally there is a wasted time discount factor to this strategy if treasures are scarce and in random positions).

[Garja]

Droptricking is a serious offense and obviously not an appropriate response to an opponent "laming" by sending his warchief to your base and sniping off your hero. Please take a step back and think about how you'd feel if someone droptricked you because they considered your play to be laming/annoying or because their attack move was bugging out.

That would simply not happen because I dont do this kind of laming.
And I even conceded a game already because of attack move bug, which kinda makes it funny you are bringing that argument to the table.

[giveuanxiety]

At least eaglemut was able to fix it. I don’t like banning players from tours unless really needed. I think it could be fine letting garja still in the tour. But def not the best move by him.

[Kaiserklein]

Now I know what to do when somppu starts running musks all over the map

[Kaiserklein]

At least eaglemut was able to fix it. I don’t like banning players from tours unless really needed. I think it could be fine letting garja still in the tour. But def not the best move by him.

Knowing garja it's pretty obvious he dropped spontaneously out of rage, and not in order to get elo. So in that regard it's not directly linked to the tourney seeding and it doesn't seem to make much sense to ban him from the tourney.
But at the same time, it's cheating, and cheaters are banned from tourneys. And on top of that he doesn't apologize (though this might change tomorrow I guess), and instead makes it even worse by typing utter bullshit in this thread.

This is the kind of situation where it sucks ass to be admin and to have to take a decision, because no matter what you decide people will riot

[deleted_user0]

Seriously tho. There is 5 days left to rank up and this is a 40 point difference

U both have 2 accounts. That in itself is also cheating the ladder, tbh. More so than playing unrated.

[deleted_user0]

Cheaters shouldn’t be allowed in this tournamnent.

Bye half of eso

[deleted_user0]

I love how everyone is trying to go against me as if I did something terribly wrong.
He intentionally right clicked his Sioux explorer across the map to my base at the beginning of the game to exactly have that situation. Knowing me he probably did it even more on purpose to annoy me more. On top of that, speaking of pull trick, he obviously pull tricked his explorer randomly out of another treasure contention (previous game). This was so much deserved.
If he apologize for that, then I can apologize for the drop.

Lol. You're crazy. He intentionally played the game right, and you droptrick and he should apologize

[Garja]

Abusing the Sioux explorer on imba native treasures is not fair, let alone playing right. Period.

[deleted_user0]

At least eaglemut was able to fix it. I don’t like banning players from tours unless really needed. I think it could be fine letting garja still in the tour. But def not the best move by him.

Knowing garja it's pretty obvious he dropped spontaneously out of rage, and not in order to get elo. So in that regard it's not directly linked to the tourney seeding and it doesn't seem to make much sense to ban him from the tourney.
But at the same time, it's cheating, and cheaters are banned from tourneys. And on top of that he doesn't apologize (though this might change tomorrow I guess), and instead makes it even worse by typing utter bullshit in this thread.

This is the kind of situation where it sucks ass to be admin and to have to take a decision, because no matter what you decide people will riot

Lool since when are cheaters banned from any tournemant in the past 10 years???

Literally every edition has had cheaters, even people cheating while playing it, and im not just talking about rhoiar and uhlan. Like at least 10 ppl have signed up who've done worse than drop trick out of rage...

I wish cheaters would be banned. Lol

[deleted_user0]

Abusing the Sioux explorer on imba native treasures is not fair, let alone playing right. Period.

Redesign the maps then... they are your maps after all lol. I do agree there are too many high profile tres on most maps.

[deleted_user0]

This is disappointing to see. I'm not sure how the admins want to proceed here, but as a quick solution I have manually recalculated both players' Elos as if Soldier had won the match, while it's still somewhat easily reversible. As of now, I have not banned Garja from the ladder, since that's not easy to take back and frankly I hope it doesn't need to come to that.

He intentionally sent the explorer across the map to my base area to exactly have that situation. Knowing me he probably did it even more on purpose to annoy me more.

Droptricking is a serious offense and obviously not an appropriate response to an opponent "laming" by sending his warchief to your base and sniping off your hero. Please take a step back and think about how you'd feel if someone droptricked you because they considered your play to be laming/annoying or because their attack move was bugging out.

I won 10 games vs @Mitoe, and he somehow made them unrated even though i definitely clicked in to rated in the game lobby. Can you fix this for me? I can point out the games for you. Ty

[deleted_user]

15 Now at that stream Mitoe was wont to release unto the people a prisoner, whom they would.

16 And they had then a notable prisoner, called Moesbar.

17 Therefore when they were gathered together, Mitoe said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you? Moesbar, or Garja which is called Godja?

18 For he knew that for envy they had delivered him.

19 When he was set down on the judgment seat, _H2O sent unto him, saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in quicksearch because of him.

20 But the trolls and the smurfs persuaded the multitude that they should ask Moesbar, and destroy Garja.

[Kaiserklein]

Lool since when are cheaters banned from any tournemant in the past 10 years???

Literally every edition has had cheaters, even people cheating while playing it, and im not just talking about rhoiar and uhlan. Like at least 10 ppl have signed up who've done worse than drop trick out of rage...

I wish cheaters would be banned. Lol

If there's evidence someone cheated, and if it's recent enough (yes I know it's subjective), I'm pretty sure the guy can't sign up. For example roiarthurbis, uhlan, sirmusket etc can't sign up to an esoc tourney.
Who signed up and shouldn't be allowed to, according to you?

[deleted_user0]

Ye, pretty arbitrary, dont you think? You know its against esoc policy to name cheaters, so i wont do it here. But certainly they arent the only players who have used

Moesbar/ui hack
Maphack
Oos hack
Freeze hack
Drop trick
Alt-d regularly
Smurfed tournament games

[gibson]

I love how everyone is trying to go against me as if I did something terribly wrong.
He intentionally right clicked his Sioux explorer across the map to my base at the beginning of the game to exactly have that situation. Knowing me he probably did it even more on purpose to annoy me more. On top of that, speaking of pull trick, he obviously pull tricked his explorer randomly out of another treasure contention (previous game). This was so much deserved.
If he apologize for that, then I can apologize for the drop.

Well you cheated and you're justifying your cheating instead of apologizing for it. That is probably why everyone is against you. Even sirmusket had the common sense to apologize lol

[Garja]

I did the right thing.