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Re: Here to report cheater

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:hmm:
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lol, is this for real?
Seriously though, how low can you stoop? And on the top of that have the stubbornness to defend this.
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umeu wrote:Ye, pretty arbitrary, dont you think? You know its against esoc policy to name cheaters, so i wont do it here. But certainly they arent the only players who have used

Moesbar/ui hack
Maphack
Oos hack
Freeze hack
Drop trick
Alt-d regularly
Smurfed tournament games

Well maybe they don't have evidence for these. And alt d isn't quite serious enough to justify a tourney ban imo, though it's scummy.
Smurfing tourney games is something different, it's not cheating in game.
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why is this still up?
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So I take it this illegitimizes the ladder so I don't have to play 15 games?
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Goodspeed wrote:So I take it this illegitimizes the ladder so I don't have to play 15 games?

Nice try. Get cracking.

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She knows
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Iamsoldier got permanently banned from ESOC apparently lol.
That's what you get when you annoy garja I guess.
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Mitoe wrote: Don't make me tell Xeelee that you're procrastinating!
I've been annoying him for the past month. Our relationship is on shaky ground now. Thanks ESOC.

[Armag] diarouga wrote:Iamsoldier got permanently banned from ESOC apparently lol.
That's what you get when you annoy garja I guess.
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XeeleeFlower wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:Iamsoldier got permanently banned from ESOC apparently lol.
That's what you get when you annoy garja I guess.
Source?
He is referring to when Diarouga was banned from the forums. Soldier has not actually been banned.
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umeu wrote:Lool since when are cheaters banned from any tournemant in the past 10 years???

Literally every edition has had cheaters, even people cheating while playing it, and im not just talking about rhoiar and uhlan.

Well, you've already listed two examples, so I guess that answers the question. :hmm:
For the record, there's already at least one currently signed up player that will be banned due to point trading.

umeu wrote:I won 10 games vs @Mitoe, and he somehow made them unrated even though i definitely clicked in to rated in the game lobby. Can you fix this for me? I can point out the games for you. Ty

Manually adjusting Elo is not something I've done before or expect to become the norm. If you could prove this happened, the player would more likely just be banned from ladder and tournament without readjusting Elos.

umeu wrote:Ye, pretty arbitrary, dont you think? You know its against esoc policy to name cheaters, so i wont do it here. But certainly they arent the only players who have used

Moesbar/ui hack
Maphack
Oos hack
Freeze hack
Drop trick
Alt-d regularly
Smurfed tournament games


If you have proof some players have done the above in rated/tournament EP games, feel free to provide it; you can use the SCC to send it to the team privately. Using alt-d outside of tournaments is not really clearly banned, but actually it maybe should be, I like the idea.

Note that it was decided long ago ESOC would kind of turn a blind eye to how players cheated on RE before EP existed, basically granting a second chance in an environment where it's harder to cheat anyway. Perhaps that's where the confusion stems from and why the bans seem arbitrary.
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Goodspeed wrote:She knows

she doesnt
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I've been annoying him for the past month. Our relationship is on shaky ground now. Thanks ESOC
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What does "right clicking the Sioux explorer" actually do?
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It loses ELO, apparently
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umeu wrote:
IAmSoldieR wrote:Seriously tho. There is 5 days left to rank up and this is a 40 point difference


U both have 2 accounts. That in itself is also cheating the ladder, tbh. More so than playing unrated.

I play any and everyone rated. But I guess you have to defend your own behavior.
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Goodspeed wrote:It loses ELO, apparently

I am trying to understand what Soldier did that apparently justifies an OOS.
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... Or drop (or whatever the fuck it's called)
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Well, this is awkward
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IAmSoldieR wrote:
umeu wrote:
IAmSoldieR wrote:Seriously tho. There is 5 days left to rank up and this is a 40 point difference


U both have 2 accounts. That in itself is also cheating the ladder, tbh. More so than playing unrated.

I play any and everyone rated. But I guess you have to defend your own behavior.


Not at all. I was in favor of qs ranking, but I'm also not going to act against my own interest in an imperfect system. I dont blame you or other players for doing the same. However, since you mentioned that it's altering the ranking, then you definitely have to take a look at what you both are doing by using smurf accounts to play people rated while leaving your main account on top ranking used for seeding. Playing unrated also alters the ranking, but not as much as using smurfs imo, though that's not really relevant to the point i was making.

You might play everyone rated, but you didnt play on Iamsoldier. And you know why just as well as i do. The same goes for garja, btw.
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Who is the most supportive of #modtheear @SoldieR or @Garja ? Need to know who to support here
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fightinfrenchman wrote:Who is the most supportive of #modtheear @SoldieR or @Garja ? Need to know who to support here

Are you suggesting that there are users less than 100% supportive of #modtheear ?
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Snuden wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:Who is the most supportive of #modtheear @SoldieR or @Garja ? Need to know who to support here

Are you suggesting that there are users less than 100% supportive of #modtheear ?


A few "bad apples" as I like to say
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
Snuden wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:Who is the most supportive of #modtheear @SoldieR or @Garja ? Need to know who to support here

Are you suggesting that there are users less than 100% supportive of #modtheear ?


A few "bad apples" as I like to say

You will get my vote if you can explain what Soldier did wrong... I mean, what is the "Sioux explorer bug"
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