50 Reasons Spain sucks in AoE III

[aligator92]

1. Best unit is a dog.
2. Can't let explorer die tanking.
3. Market start is difficult.
4. TP start is difficult.
5. No Quartermaster.
6. Crossbows.
7. Rods have no siege.
8. No 3 CAVS shipment.
9. Three! types of heavy infantry.
10. No 8 Crossbow shipment.
11. No Exiled Prince.
12. No Shadow teching units in colonial.
13. Except dog. xD
14. Love dawgs <3
15. No 8 Skirm shipment.
16. No 1k coin shipment.
17. Pike shipments.
18. 4 Lancer shipment.
19. No 5 goon shipment.
20. Rod shipments.
21. No 7 Skirm shipment.
22. This feels very repetetive.
23. Cav combat does not affect goons.
24. 3 Lancer shipment. Really?
25. No 2nd 2 falc shipment.
26. Only one viable strat.
27. Well two on high TP maps.
28. No villager shipment in fortress.
29. Lancers do nothing to other cav.
30. Vet Rods still have no siege.
31. No Skirm Combat.
32. Best spain player is Hazza.
33. Correction: ONLY spain player is Hazza.
34. Unction get buffed and nobody uses it.
35. Advanced church sends even more heavy infantry.
36. No 1000c shipment.
37. A billion shipments and nothing to send.
38. Forgot #18.
39. Actually didn't but you checked anyways.
40. No ranged unit shipments at all.
41. Royal Guard Pikes...
42. No build limit increase for dogs.
43. No 8 Huss shipment for Revolt.
44. I mentioned the missing 1k coin shipment twice.
45. Did you check this time? Actually true.
46. No good late game options.
47. France is unbeatable.
48. Not much water potential.
49. Cav HP and Cav Att also don't affect Goons.
50. (I think)

[Cometk]

Work of art

[gamevideo113]

Pretty much on spot, except for the fact that I and probably also my colleague @pecelot would disagree with point 41.

I play at lieutenant level so nothing too serious, but i have to say, whenever the map doesn't have any more gold and i don't feel like switching to plantations, there is nothing more fulfilling than swarming your opponent's base with pikes and burn it to the ground before they can even send their army back.

[Jerimuno]

really had me with 39

[Hazza54321]

i will still take being the best spanish player!

[zosgan]

h2o best spain player 28

[Imperial Noob]

[Kickass_OP]

Up age 2 no have 400w...

[deleted_user0]

What the fuck did you just fucking say about Spain, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the High Plans, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Deccan, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in Fortress war and I'm the top anti-cav in the entire AOE armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of dogs across the Great Lakes and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the PAIN TRAIN, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your ELO. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can bash you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare FF. Not only am I extensively trained in FF, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Spanish colonial strats and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the ESO, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit the Spanish pain train all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

[Dolan]

>50-points list on Spain
>9 replies in topic about Spain
>0 mentions of Piro

[pecelot]

best unit is hands down lancer, unlike some Asian wanna-bes with pathetic penalties against heavy infantry, not to mention it has 4 cards from HC on top of the guard upgrade and can be buffed by missionaries
point 1. is therefore invalid, rendering the whole list incorrect

[jesus3]

There appears to be a mistake, I don't see the name piroshiki anywhere

[Squamiger]

spain would be a lot more interesting if you just gave them the 400 wood age up to colonial, i feel like then they'd have a super viable age 2 even on non-ATP maps. shipping 5vill 4vill and a ton of crates

[Kawapasaka]

Just tried out Spain and can confirm point 1. I did a horribly butchered FF with Russia under my TC, was waiting on the 5 lancer shipment to engage but couldn't afford minutemen and forgot my 4 age-up huss completely in some corner of the map. Yet when smoke had cleared and all my age 2 rods and lancers were dead, all 4 of my dogs were still standing, chewing through his strelets. Then I finally found the res for MM and cleaned up.
Spain is fun.

[Mosx]

Spain has one of the best ff in game (all in) and I see some hazza video where pike /rodo skirm 2 falco are impossible to stop, but it's easy to counter with coulve goon skirm or 2 falco shipment too

[dansil92]

Rodeleros are very good at what they do, i like them a lot vs germany, but its a shame they have such low base damge and siege, preventing them from being more versatile. Even a bonus vs vills to represent spain's... colonization methods... could make them better

[Interjection]

Cav combat doesn't effect goons!? Wtf this seems like an inconsistency that needs fixing? I'm pretty sure every cav combat ups goons for all other civs? @zoom

[Hazza54321]

its hand cav combat not cav combat its basically a totally different card, besides u dont really wanna make that many goons as spain

[pecelot]

Spain only has one ranged-infantry shipment — 24 crossbowmen in the Industrial Age — and no upgrades, so it actually seems consistent.

[gamevideo113]

Rodeleros are very good at what they do, i like them a lot vs germany, but its a shame they have such low base damge and siege, preventing them from being more versatile. Even a bonus vs vills to represent spain's... colonization methods... could make them better

Rodoleros are decent vs cav and that's as good as it gets, against everything else they are simply underwhelming considering that they are more expensive than a musk. I wouldn't be against buffing their cards in some way.

[yemshi]

Cav combat doesn't effect goons!? Wtf this seems like an inconsistency that needs fixing? I'm pretty sure every cav combat ups goons for all other civs? @zoom

That's for sure intentional. Age II combat cards also don't affect French goons while they boost Bristih ones, just as another example.

[Interjection]

Interesting. So British actually have jacked goon in late game. Huh

[Riotcoke]

Interesting. So British actually have jacked goon in late game. Huh

You don't normally have both cav combat cards as Brit in age 2, so they really will only have +30 percent hp and +15 percent attack though.

[zoom]

Cav combat doesn't effect goons!? Wtf this seems like an inconsistency that needs fixing? I'm pretty sure every cav combat ups goons for all other civs? @zoom

All "Cavalry Combat" shipments affect light cavalry. Spanish doesn't have that shipment. It has "Hand Cavalry Combat", IIRC. I'd sooner buff the percentage, than alter that fact. Although, I'm open to player opinion.

It's unfortunate that the icons are identical. A task for our gifted modders, perhaps?

[dansil92]

Brit goons are able to be exactly equal to port goons minus the range is this not common knowledge?