[Armag] diarouga wrote:Honestly, I think that banning Garja from elo makes sense but banning him from tourneys is definitely a mistake @Cometk . He didn't cheat in tourneys so there is no reason to ban him.
Though, as ladder is used for tourney seeding, if he's banned from ladder, hard to seed him properly in a tourney. And that's also the 2nd time there's a drop trick evidence and last time was during a tourney seeding period iirc. I think that's the reason why they ended up also banning him from tourney.
We don't need seeding for EPL though. Anyway, ESOC should make a difference between what happens on the forums/on eso/in tourneys. @Cometk It's not too late to let Garja play in the EPL.
If people want to play tourney's then they shouldn't cheat. If you want to try and make exceptions for Garja, then what's stopping people from advocating for sirmusket? It all results in people being defrauded of their elo, whether that matters to people or not, that is what we hold as a standard for the community.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:I don't think Sirmusket should be banned from tourneys either but no point in arguing for him. He probably doesn't even care anyway.
Sir musket has cheated in tourney though (someone has smurfed on his account for an esoc tourney), so that's a totally different case
[Armag] diarouga wrote:I don't think Sirmusket should be banned from tourneys either but no point in arguing for him. He probably doesn't even care anyway.
Sir musket has cheated in tourney though (someone has smurfed on his account for an esoc tourney), so that's a totally different case
I don't know sirmusket's case well but if someone smurfed then it's deserved.
[Armag] diarouga wrote:Banning him from the EPL hurts the community more than it hurts him.
The same can be said about banning kynesie and Tit. Banning a top player is never an easy choice to make, but we've shown time and time again that we do not tolerate cheating of any form. Garja got a slap on the wrist last time this happened - now we have decided to act.
[Armag] diarouga wrote:I don't know sirmusket's case well but if someone smurfed then it's deserved.
You describe yourself quite well. Try to jump to conclusions less often and try to trust the admin team more, especially Cometk. We know what we're doing, and I can assure you the decision made was the best alternative.
Yes, garja has now dropped 2 times people because he is way too hotheaded. Still, overall his "drop/cheating rate" is extremely low. Just both instances a thread was made.
Garja wrote:Jesus christ if you are dumb. I cant care less about the points I do it to piss off the opponent. Can your IQ understand it? If it was LAN I would have just slapped breeze face instead if that makes you understand the point better.
No you would have sat awkwardly in the corner cause you have no social skills which is probably why your such a count online
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stupid logic. noob players can say op?
toxic, Insult, Racism ?
Why keep trolling and messing with Garja guys? If you keep attacking someone they will just get more and more defensive and it makes the situation worse. We're all aware of what he did and it's done. I don't want to see a good player like Garja just disappear.
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I am following the discussion from the beginning and also others and I am seeing that if you are a good pr type dan30 onwards, just do something wrong and immediately signal you etc. while there are other low and middle level players who use real hacks and they are only climbed from the ranking eso that they don't care and maybe they don't even know it, but the laws are the same for everyone? I am not defending anyone but the discussions and the questions only open them for these high prices
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Blastkiller wrote:I am following the discussion from the beginning and also others and I am seeing that if you are a good pr type dan30 onwards, just do something wrong and immediately signal you etc. while there are other low and middle level players who use real hacks and they are only climbed from the ranking eso that they don't care and maybe they don't even know it, but the laws are the same for everyone? I am not defending anyone but the discussions and the questions only open them for these high prices
We do not have the ability to do anything about cheaters on RE patch. This only references the ESOC Patch and EP Ladder.
Blastkiller wrote:I am following the discussion from the beginning and also others and I am seeing that if you are a good pr type dan30 onwards, just do something wrong and immediately signal you etc. while there are other low and middle level players who use real hacks and they are only climbed from the ranking eso that they don't care and maybe they don't even know it, but the laws are the same for everyone? I am not defending anyone but the discussions and the questions only open them for these high prices
We do not have the ability to do anything about cheaters on RE patch. This only references the ESOC Patch and EP Ladder.
one thing you can do to make a blacklist and highlight it on the site and on the discord so as to alert all aoe3 players and so do not fall into their pitfalls
No one will escape from me, from my Russians, neither a troll nor a hacker nor a smurf, they will all give days in front of my strelets
Blastkiller wrote:I am following the discussion from the beginning and also others and I am seeing that if you are a good pr type dan30 onwards, just do something wrong and immediately signal you etc. while there are other low and middle level players who use real hacks and they are only climbed from the ranking eso that they don't care and maybe they don't even know it, but the laws are the same for everyone? I am not defending anyone but the discussions and the questions only open them for these high prices
We do not have the ability to do anything about cheaters on RE patch. This only references the ESOC Patch and EP Ladder.
one thing you can do to make a blacklist and highlight it on the site and on the discord so as to alert all aoe3 players and so do not fall into their pitfalls
That's not as easy as it sounds. Maintaining such a blacklist is a lot of work and it seems like nobody wants to take the responsibility for it, which is understandable.
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