ESOC history quiz

[Challenger_Marco]

You missed:
- Dolan in the mod question (1p)

I thought 3 names for 3 points ? So i thought only 3 names was right out of these but come on lol how is this point distribution is fair?? each name carries (0.75 p) which means i should get 17.25.But if it was 4 i would have def ruled out gibson & jerom

I think you're forgetting the liebe question was for 2 points.

Nah ik i ans'd this wrong and accounted 2 points for loss

[Dolan]

- I knew a lot more details about how ESOC was founded but I forgot to add the year too. I obviously knew it because I joined the board one or two months after.
- Had no idea Jerom and PoC were mods, it probably happened when I left the forum for some time
- I wasn't even aware there was an Amsterdam meetup lul. The Chicago one felt too much like an NA thing, but whateva
- After I completed the quiz, I remembered more clearly what was the weeb name that Incog had, something with kami and some pink animal as pfp

I'm still firmly plugged in the center of the leaderboard

[princeofcarthage]

Wait princeofcarthage moderated the forums? I don't remember this.

LordRaphael and diarouga

36/44 got this right

Embarrassingly got this wrong, despite being there in person

Unofficially yes. I have many times saved @edeholland family members from violent forum abuse, deleted spam posts/threads, and maybe, maybe once or twice deleted some rule breaking post.

[Goodspeed]

You missed:
- Dolan in the mod question (1p)

I thought 3 names for 3 points ? So i thought only 3 names was right out of these but come on lol how is this point distribution is fair?? each name carries (0.75 p) which means i should get 17.25.But if it was 4 i would have def ruled out gibson & jerom

3p doesn't necessarily mean 3 names. That would be a dead giveaway about how many correct answers there are. You chose to make that assumption

[princeofcarthage]

You missed:
- Dolan in the mod question (1p)

I thought 3 names for 3 points ? So i thought only 3 names was right out of these but come on lol how is this point distribution is fair?? each name carries (0.75 p) which means i should get 17.25.But if it was 4 i would have def ruled out gibson & jerom

3p doesn't necessarily mean 3 names. That would be a dead giveaway about how many correct answers there are. Making this incorrect assumption is on you.

How did you find out..? If you didn't know in first place why was my name even up there..?

[Goodspeed]

From n0el and ede. Your name was up there specifically to test for detailed memory. It's something I myself was unsure of, so I figured others would be too.
I tried to keep a balance of easy options and hard ones, to differ between 3 categories of people: People who don't know anything, people who remember some of it, and people with detailed memory (who should get the most points).

[Mr_Bramboy]

The moderating question put me off. Carthage was both a dev and media team member but never a mod. On the other hand, Kaiserklein was a mod in tournament forums for quite some time. I definitely got the liebe wrong, couldn’t be bothered to look up anything but I know there’s a thread with the story somewhere. Fun quiz!

[Mr_Bramboy]

I am proud that four people view me as a dictator in the past. Thank you for your confidence.

[Mr_Bramboy]

You missed:
- Dolan in the mod question (1p)

I thought 3 names for 3 points ? So i thought only 3 names was right out of these but come on lol how is this point distribution is fair?? each name carries (0.75 p) which means i should get 17.25.But if it was 4 i would have def ruled out gibson & jerom

3p doesn't necessarily mean 3 names. That would be a dead giveaway about how many correct answers there are. You chose to make that assumption

Ironically this is how it works in the Dutch education system. When I worked at a tutoring agency for pupils that were taking the high school exams we would teach them that the amount of points is related to the build-up of the answer. Four points means four steps to reach the answer. I think I also answered three people.

[Dolan]

The question did make it clear it was about who moderated the forums at some point, whether or not he/she was a designated mod.
When I was in the ESOC board, I remember people avoided moderating like the plague, because they'd have to deal with the basement crew's spam .

[Goodspeed]

The moderating question put me off. Carthage was both a dev and media team member but never a mod. On the other hand, Kaiserklein was a mod in tournament forums for quite some time. I definitely got the liebe wrong, couldn’t be bothered to look up anything but I know there’s a thread with the story somewhere. Fun quiz!

Fair point about Kaiser, I didn't know that. But I would still say having mod powers in a specific part of the forum doesn't constitute "moderating ESOC"

[Dolan]

Yeah tourney stuff was always a separate business that had separate staff, admins, etc
I mean tourneys were not about ESOC forum content, they were competitions that could have taken place with or without a forum.

[Goodspeed]

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You missed:
- Dolan in the mod question (1p)

I thought 3 names for 3 points ? So i thought only 3 names was right out of these but come on lol how is this point distribution is fair?? each name carries (0.75 p) which means i should get 17.25.But if it was 4 i would have def ruled out gibson & jerom

3p doesn't necessarily mean 3 names. That would be a dead giveaway about how many correct answers there are. You chose to make that assumption

Ironically this is how it works in the Dutch education system. When I worked at a tutoring agency for pupils that were taking the high school exams we would teach them that the amount of points is related to the build-up of the answer. Four points means four steps to reach the answer. I think I also answered three people.

"Amount of steps to reach the answer in an open question" is very different from "amount of correct answers in a multiple-choice question." A fundamental aspect of multiple choice questions where multiple selections are possible is that the amount of correct answers is unknown.
If I wanted everyone to know how many names to select, I would've said "Which 4 of the following ..."

[harcha]

I think i would get below 10.

[Kaiserklein]

The moderating question put me off. Carthage was both a dev and media team member but never a mod. On the other hand, Kaiserklein was a mod in tournament forums for quite some time. I definitely got the liebe wrong, couldn’t be bothered to look up anything but I know there’s a thread with the story somewhere. Fun quiz!

Yeah I wasn't sure what "mod" meant. I don't consider I've ever been a mod, but I guess I technically was. And princeofcarthage being a media team member kinda counts as a mod in my eyes, but it technically doesn't. Can we have the correct answer on this one? @Goodspeed

[Goodspeed]

Answers are in the OP

[Challenger_Marco]

I've been thought & raised to write & give answers proportional to the amount of marks/points idk how it is in outside world.

I would have never imagined i have lost a point bc of this in this quiz but also the problem can be easily solved by giving 4 points?? (ik argurment for this will be giving away the ans(but i doubt if this changes anything in ppl's response) but it's really unorthodox but you seem to be very strict and not lenient lol)

The question is clearly vague if this would have appeared in my exams i would have scored full because of the ambiguity set by the questioner(everyone would be asking doubt left & right about this) but i assume generally everyone follows the same system of writing/selecting points w.r.t points awarded.

But at end i'm not gonna ask much as this was a fun quiz

[princeofcarthage]

I've been thought & raised to write & give answers proportional to the amount of marks/points idk how it is in outside world.

I would have never imagined i have lost a point bc of this in this quiz but also the problem can be easily solved by giving 4 points?? (ik argurment for this will be giving away the ans(but i doubt if this changes anything in ppl's response) but it's really unorthodox but you seem to be very strict and not lenient lol)

The question is clearly vague if this would have appeared in my exams i would have scored full because of the ambiguity set by the questioner(everyone would be asking doubt left & right about this) but i assume generally everyone follows the same system of writing/selecting points w.r.t points awarded.

But at end i'm not gonna ask much as this was a fun quiz

seems like you are really salty about it

[Goodspeed]

I've been thought & raised to write & give answers proportional to the amount of marks/points idk how it is in outside world.

I would have never imagined i have lost a point bc of this in this quiz but also the problem can be easily solved by giving 4 points?? (ik argurment for this will be giving away the ans(but i doubt if this changes anything in ppl's response) but it's really unorthodox but you seem to be very strict and not lenient lol)

The question is clearly vague if this would have appeared in my exams i would have scored full because of the ambiguity set by the questioner(everyone would be asking doubt left & right about this) but i assume generally everyone follows the same system of writing/selecting points w.r.t points awarded.

But at end i'm not gonna ask much as this was a fun quiz

4 points for just that one question felt like too much. Imo it would have a disproportional effect on people's scores.

Idk nor care about the 2022 exam meta. If you choose to make assumptions about the questioner's intent beyond what is implied in the question itself, it's on you if it backfires.

[Challenger_Marco]

I'm disagreeing the value you gave for question's intent. I thought any 3 of the 4 answers would give you full score but it's not my fault that i assumed and answered.

I could also frame a question for 1 p which has 6 options but 5 right answers and my intent is to give full credit who got it all but everyone gave 4 answers so should i throw this on the reader's fault that he/she made this assumption? or was it my fault the options & values don't match which has lead to this scenario?

[callentournies]

@Challenger_Marco cope

The highlights are basement’s responses to the liebe question. POTY (post of the year).

[princeofcarthage]

I'm disagreeing the value you gave for question's intent. I thought any 3 of the 4 answers would give you full score but it's not my fault that i assumed and answered.

I could also frame a question for 1 p which has 6 options but 5 right answers and my intent is to give full credit who got it all but everyone gave 4 answers so should i throw this on the reader's fault that he/she made this assumption? or was it my fault the options & values don't match which has lead to this scenario?

Why would you assume anything beyond the scope of what is given and if you do it is your fault. The question gave you certain number of options and certain number of points if answered correctly. Nowhere it is mentioned how many points each option carries, how many options are correct and the distribution of pattern of the points for each option. The amount of correct options and the points, to match is not a necessity. So yes, if you assume anything other than that is given it is yours and yours fault alone.

[Goodspeed]

@Challenger_Marco It may be generally worthwhile to assume intent based on the point value of a question in 2022 exam meta, but that doesn't make it the responsibility of the questioner to make sure that assumption is correct. Especially if it's just some random quiz on the internet. Considering the question did not say anywhere that there were 3 correct answers, your assuming as much is your responsibility.

I thought any 3 of the 4 answers would give you full score but it's not my fault that i assumed and answered.

This would penalize people who know the actual answer and selected all 4 correct options. They would have the same score as people who only selected 3, which would be unfair.

If you actually knew the answer, you would have selected all 4.

I could also frame a question for 1 p which has 6 options but 5 right answers and my intent is to give full credit who got it all but everyone gave 4 answers so should i throw this on the reader's fault that he/she made this assumption? or was it my fault the options & values don't match which has lead to this scenario?

I don't understand this scenario. What basis would people have for assuming there's 4 correct answers? It's obviously their fault if they do.

[iNcog]

For Queen/Kaiser, it's not that I forgot, it's that I couldn't remember which story began before the other.

Otherwise, I missed the Garja messiah question, the Crypto/Snuden question and the apology thread. off the top of my head. I didn't realize there were several answers possible for the moderators question.

Very fun thread.

[callentournies]

Which one of these members has NOT posted an apology thread as of June 14 2022? (1p)

SomppuKunkku
Hazza54321
SirCallen
fightinfrenchman
gibson

I’ve never done anything wrong ever