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n0el wrote:Got after it for 40 miles on the bike today. Hard ride after too many beersh last night.
You go stationary or hit the roads?
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vardar wrote:
n0el wrote:Got after it for 40 miles on the bike today. Hard ride after too many beersh last night.
You go stationary or hit the roads?
Roads. Lucky to be in northern Michigan right now and have access to amazing stretches of bike trails.

Much like a treadmill, I don’t think I could stay focused on a stationary bike for that long.
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well i dont know now since lockdown! wen to the gym same weight as before really but was struggling to squat 80kg compared to doing sets of 5x5 105kgs on the squat rack, couldnt walk in a straight line after quick 1km run to finish
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I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:well i dont know now since lockdown! wen to the gym same weight as before really but was struggling to squat 80kg compared to doing sets of 5x5 105kgs on the squat rack, couldnt walk in a straight line after quick 1km run to finish
That was me after bowling 5 overs in my first cricket match since house arrest.
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chris1089 wrote:
I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:well i dont know now since lockdown! wen to the gym same weight as before really but was struggling to squat 80kg compared to doing sets of 5x5 105kgs on the squat rack, couldnt walk in a straight line after quick 1km run to finish
That was me after bowling 5 overs in my first cricket match since house arrest.
How many wides? ;)
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I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:
chris1089 wrote:
I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:well i dont know now since lockdown! wen to the gym same weight as before really but was struggling to squat 80kg compared to doing sets of 5x5 105kgs on the squat rack, couldnt walk in a straight line after quick 1km run to finish
That was me after bowling 5 overs in my first cricket match since house arrest.
How many wides? ;)
1. I bowled 5 overs 1-23
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gibson wrote:Went to the gym, a bit pissed off cause I have to pay 2.5 per parking every time I go. If i go 3 days a week that more than doubles the cost of membership. I guess I could go to the one thats 10 miles away thats not downtown so has free parking, but I dont want to do that either.
I knew recovery was gonna suck since its been so long since I've been to the gym, but I'm still fucking sore today, 3 days later.
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gibson wrote:Went to the gym, a bit pissed off cause I have to pay 2.5 per parking every time I go. If i go 3 days a week that more than doubles the cost of membership. I guess I could go to the one thats 10 miles away thats not downtown so has free parking, but I dont want to do that either.
I knew recovery was gonna suck since its been so long since I've been to the gym, but I'm still fucking sore today, 3 days later.
The trick is not to stop. After the next workout, another muscle group will be sore and you will ignore the first one
Correlation doesn't mean causation.
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anybody else waddle out of the gym the first time doing legs back at the gym since lockdown?
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I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:anybody else waddle out of the gym the first time doing legs back at the gym since lockdown?
I couldn't fully stretch my arms xD
Correlation doesn't mean causation.
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Nope but my arms felt horrible this morning.
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I found turning over in my sleep achy after my first few times of bowling.
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I was wondering about routines, how frequently do you change them and how do you do it considering your various goals?
Correlation doesn't mean causation.
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BrookG wrote:I feel stuck. I have been at 60kg for over 2-3 months. It seems I can't gain weight, not sure what I do wrong. The dietitian I used to visit isn't working atm.
Update: I increased my intake by 200 kcals, at around 2200-2400 max. I am a bit less than 62kg and 14% fat ratio. I might have helped not exercising only at home but rather in the gym

Also, I have tried the park these couple weeks. Although that proved to be more demanding than I expected, it was actually more crowded, and I won't choose it as often due cases increasing here in Greece.
Correlation doesn't mean causation.
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Do any of you guys know if protien powders and kreatine are worth getting?
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Riotcoke wrote:Do any of you guys know if protien powders and kreatine are worth getting?
If you can't get 1 gram of protein/pound of lean bodyweight in your natural diet and your fitness goal is to gain muscle mass, consider using a protein supplement. Little reason for creatine imho, but also little reason not to. Science isn't conclusive on its efficacy and for a beginner or intermediate lifter there are ample gains to be made as is. I don't think it's dangerous just a waste of money.
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Riotcoke wrote:Do any of you guys know if protien powders and kreatine are worth getting?
Personally, I find protein powder kind of useless if you have a somewhat balanced diet. I barely eat meat and do not focus on my protein intake, yet my muscles are growing without any protein powder. IMO it is mostly a waste of money. I do use creatine - there does seem to be some evidence on it being useful (although it might not be conclusive, as Callen said) and to me it seems relatively cheap compared to basically every other type of supplement. Creatine is like 15 euros or dollars for around 6-12 months worth of the stuff. It is much cheaper than regularly eating protein powder, which is more like 30 dollars per month if you take it regularly (or more).

Overall, if you're a beginner, I wouldn't use, either, and just focus on eating enough healthy food and training hard. If you're a bit more advanced, creatine can't hurt. IMO, all other supplements are either not really needed (protein powder) or entirely useless and a waste of money (BCAA etc.).

Source: have been training on and off for over 10 years, weigh ~82 kg at 180 cm height, can do 15-12-10 pull-ups, used to bench press the 100 lb dumbbells on flat press (I don't use free weights anymore because of my joints, now I do 225 lb on the incline chest press machine for 10-8-8). None of that is amazing or meant to show off, just to indicate that I have some work out experience. Obviously it's the internet, so believe it or not.
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I have no opinion on protein powders. I heard from a friend that used to throw hammer, that she had more appetite when taking, and could eat much more; thus making frequent meals easier.
Correlation doesn't mean causation.
http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

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Protein powders are not primary supplement because:
- It is refined, that body does not react well (like refined sugar, flour, palm oil etc.) such that may cause imflammation
- No one of the pros prefer it because whole foods are much better, rich piana explains it well people just sponsor it for the money.
- Cow milk has hormones and stuff that cause estrogen levels to go high, if you are kinda fatty, with oily skin, first you should do is to get your hormone levels healty for an adult male(most people dont have healthy levels). You can understand by looking at the mirror. If your T levels rise you will gain strength and muscle, also better workouts. Red meat is just better.
- There are claims some firms put chemicals in powders for various reasons and you can't always be %100 certain. So buy from a reliable source.
Only benefit of powder i know is it circulates in blood faster and 'some studies' sponsored by 'whoever' claims to enhance muscle restoration which i am skeptical about. Either way, powder is not that critical in bigger theme i think, you can obviously get better by using it as a protein reinforcement, but it is overrated due to advertising. I dont know about kreatine, never interested.
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Hmm, might just stick to my white frozen fish fillet and brocolli diet that i've had for the last two weeks then. Although if what you're saying brook is true i might try it, putting on weight is sort of hard for me as i have a super high motabilsm.
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Riotcoke wrote:Hmm, might just stick to my white frozen fish fillet and brocolli diet that i've had for the last two weeks then. Although if what you're saying brook is true i might try it, putting on weight is sort of hard for me as i have a super high motabilsm.
Take it with a grain of salt, I can't guarantee it. Also, you might want to track what you eat. If you have high metabolism, you might want to have a larger calorie intake.
Correlation doesn't mean causation.
http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

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Ye, i don't see the harm trying it for a month or so, a kg bag is only like £11 or something.
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Back in the day prince and I had a brief talk about creatine and he said he got good results from it.

@Warno hey did u ever use creatine? How was ur experience?
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Riotcoke wrote:Hmm, might just stick to my white frozen fish fillet and brocolli diet that i've had for the last two weeks then. Although if what you're saying brook is true i might try it, putting on weight is sort of hard for me as i have a super high motabilsm.
Honestly, if you're mostly starting out and trying to gain weight I wouldn't try a classic bodybuilder diet like that. Not because it is bad per se, just because the focus should be on gaining muscle mass. Doing that is easier if you eat stuff that actually tastes good lol.

Obviously you shouldn't just binge on McDonald's, chips or chocolate. But if you focus on eating more and just eat generally good stuff like eggs, veggies, meat, fish, feta cheese, nuts, grains, wholegrain pasta, rice, joghurt etc that's completely fine.

If you are like 60 kg (Idk how much you weigh) and only eat fish and broccoli, chances are that you'll eat too little or just get bored fast.

Better aim for a longterm, somewhat healthy but sustainable diet than going full bodybuilder broccoli style imo. Marathon, not a sprint.
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Astaroth wrote:
Riotcoke wrote:Hmm, might just stick to my white frozen fish fillet and brocolli diet that i've had for the last two weeks then. Although if what you're saying brook is true i might try it, putting on weight is sort of hard for me as i have a super high motabilsm.
Honestly, if you're mostly starting out and trying to gain weight I wouldn't try a classic bodybuilder diet like that. Not because it is bad per se, just because the focus should be on gaining muscle mass. Doing that is easier if you eat stuff that actually tastes good lol.

Obviously you shouldn't just binge on McDonald's, chips or chocolate. But if you focus on eating more and just eat generally good stuff like eggs, veggies, meat, fish, feta cheese, nuts, grains, wholegrain pasta, rice, joghurt etc that's completely fine.

If you are like 60 kg (Idk how much you weigh) and only eat fish and broccoli, chances are that you'll eat too little or just get bored fast.

Better aim for a longterm, somewhat healthy but sustainable diet than going full bodybuilder broccoli style imo. Marathon, not a sprint.
I'm 74kg and 182cm and i do eat other stuff, it's just become my go to evening meal as it's cheap and pretty good for you.
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