Mid term election in USA could have big importance to us all

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Goodspeed wrote:@gibson Who is talking about Tennessee?
Do you think the majority of the country votes R today?

Obviously in terms of country wide its relatively even
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martinspjuth wrote:@Goodspeed
If they can change so much in only two years US political system is even worse than I thought. The possibility to manipulate things this way doesn't seem new though, it seems this have been done regularly during the whole US history. Have most/many other elections had the same problem or does Trump abuse the system to a much larger degree than what has ever been done before?
I think gerrymandering is mostly done at the state level so the president has little to do with it. And, I know this sounds biased but from what I've read republicans have abused it to a larger extent maybe not historically but recently.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:Petition to lock this thread as soon as the results are in so it stops getting fucking bumped
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Goodspeed wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:Petition to lock this thread as soon as the results are in so it stops getting fucking bumped
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It's a bad thread with bad posts and the dev team refuses to let me hide it
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It's not that bad
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Goodspeed wrote:
martinspjuth wrote:@Goodspeed
If they can change so much in only two years US political system is even worse than I thought. The possibility to manipulate things this way doesn't seem new though, it seems this have been done regularly during the whole US history. Have most/many other elections had the same problem or does Trump abuse the system to a much larger degree than what has ever been done before?
I think gerrymandering is mostly done at the state level so the president has little to do with it. And, I know this sounds biased but from what I've read republicans have abused it to a larger extent maybe not historically but recently.

For sure. Both parties have abused it, its just right now it's at a historic amount favoring R's.
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That was fun! I love watching elections.
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Amsel_ wrote:That was fun! I love watching elections.


So what's your bet?
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@fightinfrenchman say:
So what's your bet?
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Petition to lock this thread as soon as the results are in so it stops getting fucking bumped

Now that most of the results are counted, I would say its to late for bettings.

Results this far (and prolly the final results):
House: Dems 219 (+26) - Rebuplicans 193 (-26)
Senate Dems 45 (- 2) Republicans 51 (+ 2)


On the other hand, @fightinfrenchman could give us his sharp political analyzed of the results, and make this thread Great again (since his only responses on the last pages, has been to rant on how bad it is :hmm: )

Im glad that Dems took back control of the House, but also sad that they lost many seats to the Senate. Im also very sad that Stacy Abrahs seem to have lost in Georgia. It is a fair guess that she prolly could have won, if it had not been for all the shenanigans by Brian Kemp.

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It's great seeing all these Dutchies, Nords etc following American politics so closely. Just proof that the USA truly dominates the world.
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Not quite true. Most people outside of the US follow US politics the same way as they follow WWF, it can be rather amusing even though they know it is fake.
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Snuden wrote:Not quite true. Most people outside of the US follow US politics the same way as they follow WWF, it can be rather amusing even though they know it is fake.


yup exactly. in order to do something right, it's very important to know how not to do it. USA always provides invaluable examples for this.
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Horsemen wrote:It's great seeing all these Dutchies, Nords etc following American politics so closely. Just proof that the USA truly dominates the world.


Well, these days US politics and shenanigans all over the world, effects every human worldwide. So, yeah, we follow the US politics with anger, disgust and quite frankly, anxiety :!:
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Horsemen wrote:It's great seeing all these Dutchies, Nords etc following American politics so closely. Just proof that the USA truly dominates the world.

It's hillarious to see how these mid-term elections in the USA tend to turn their presidents into lame duck ones. It's like they have it too good that they need to sabotage themselves.
Surely, mid-term elections should put more pressure on the current administration to perform better not only during electoral years, but at a steady rate.

Experience shows, though, that usually these mid-terms are lost by incumbents. So what we're going to see is yet another case of a lame duck president struggling to finish his mandate. Pretty much what happened to Obummer.
So, basically, there's no reason to cheer for either camp. It's just going to be 2 more years of gridlock politics.
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Dolan wrote:
Horsemen wrote:It's great seeing all these Dutchies, Nords etc following American politics so closely. Just proof that the USA truly dominates the world.

It's hillarious to see how these mid-term elections in the USA tend to turn their presidents into lame duck ones. It's like they have it too good that they need to sabotage themselves.
Surely, mid-term elections should put more pressure on the current administration to perform better not only during electoral years, but at a steady rate.

Experience shows, though, that usually these mid-terms are lost by incumbents. So what we're going to see is yet another case of a lame duck president struggling to finish his mandate. Pretty much what happened to Obummer.
So, basically, there's no reason to cheer for either camp. It's just going to be 2 more years of gridlock politics.

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Compared to the past 2 years, I would prefer a gridlock/lame duck now @Dolan .
I copied this from the Guardian just now:
Republicans have kept ā€“ and strengthened ā€“ their hold on the Senate. They have at least 51 seats, with a net gain of two over the Democrats. Four Democratic incumbents have been defeated: Bill Nelson in Florida, Heidi Heitkamp in North Dakota, Joe Donnelly in Indiana, and Claire McCaskill in Missouri.

One could say that the 4 candidates who lost, are so right leaning, that the result is about the same in the Senate.
I also think that these candidates have betrayed their base, one time to many - so when election day comes, the voters are just now willing to go out and vote for "the better of 2 evils".
I hope that this is something that the Corporate Dems will learn something from, but I would not hold my breath as long as Nancy Pelocy, Chuck Schumer and Tom Perez are in charge :cry:
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Gendarme wrote:Republicans will get both the senate and the house. Brace yourselves for impact, plebs.


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iwillspankyou wrote:One could say that the 4 candidates who lost, are so right leaning, that the result is about the same in the Senate.


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fightinfrenchman wrote:
Gendarme wrote:Republicans will get both the senate and the house. Brace yourselves for impact, plebs.


:hmm:
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Overall, the election results seem to be a modest success of the democrats. My thoughts:
  • They won the house, which is not necessarily guaranteed given how polarized the country is and how ineffective/inconsistent the democratic election campaign seems to have been.
  • They lost seats in the senate, which was to be expected. The senator cohort which was up for election consisted of a large number of democrats and it would have been quite a tough job to even defend all of these positions.
  • No changes in quantity of governors.
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