What do you consider to be traits of a "successful" person?

[fightinfrenchman]

Just out of curiosity. I'm going to refrain from posting my own ideas here first to see what others have to say, but I will edit this first post into a list of interesting ideas that people come up with. Obviously "success" means different things to different people so it should be interesting to see what people come up with.

Edit: if you stumble on this post and see a bunch of shitposts, just ignore them and post your honest thoughts please.

[forgrin]

Someone that finds success. That's literally it. Some people are driven, some have an inspiriation, and some are just lucky. There is no characteristic.

Also depends on how you define success. What if success is just being happy? And what is being "happy?" The question doesn't really make sense if you deconstruct it at all.

[fightinfrenchman]

Someone that finds success. That's literally it. Some people are driven, some have an inspiriation, and some are just lucky. There is no characteristic.

Also depends on how you define success. What if success is just being happy? And what is being "happy?" The question doesn't really make sense if you deconstruct it at all.

I know, that's why I specifically mentioned that "success" can mean different things to different people.

[n0el]

Sociopath

[fightinfrenchman]

Starting to think that my thread was misunderstood

[deleted_user0]

high elorating

if elorating is absent, high post count can substitute.

[fightinfrenchman]

high elorating

if elorating is absent, high post count can substitute.

Needs to be high quality posts though, we all know people with very high post counts who often make bad posts (won't name names)

[Jam]

high elorating

if elorating is absent, high post count can substitute.

How do I tell if I'm high? How do I and now I'm how do I can tell?

[forgrin]

Someone that finds success. That's literally it. Some people are driven, some have an inspiriation, and some are just lucky. There is no characteristic.

Also depends on how you define success. What if success is just being happy? And what is being "happy?" The question doesn't really make sense if you deconstruct it at all.

I know, that's why I specifically mentioned that "success" can mean different things to different people.

That you acknowledge your question doesn't make sense actually doesn't help anyone answer it. A better question would be "what do you personally define as success (for yourself or others)?"

[evilcheadar]

Probably achieving the means to freely pursue your passions and the capability to represent yourself in the way you want to be represented

[fightinfrenchman]

Someone that finds success. That's literally it. Some people are driven, some have an inspiriation, and some are just lucky. There is no characteristic.

Also depends on how you define success. What if success is just being happy? And what is being "happy?" The question doesn't really make sense if you deconstruct it at all.

I know, that's why I specifically mentioned that "success" can mean different things to different people.

That you acknowledge your question doesn't make sense actually doesn't help anyone answer it. A better question would be "what do you personally define as success (for yourself or others)?"

No, because the original question acknowledged that "success" can mean different things to different people, thus meaning that their answers would likely differ wildly. You decided to ignore that part and not really answer that question.

[deleted_user0]

high elorating

if elorating is absent, high post count can substitute.

Needs to be high quality posts though, we all know people with very high post counts who often make bad posts (won't name names)

thats your opinion. and to quote the great G: it's a garbage opinion.

[stronk]

success

[deleted_user]

Attractive physical appearance

[fightinfrenchman]

Looking for more internal things, not external like money and stuff

[deleted_user]

Looking for more internal things, not external like money and stuff

This is what the basement does to every other thread FYI

[Googol]

A person which considers himself happy with what he has is the most successful person that can be.

[Gendarme]

Tedere

[Googol]

Tedere

You read my mind!

[Kickass_OP]

Competence and self-confidence.
Ex: Tedere12 in ESOC Autumn championish 2017.

[Garja]

luck

[Amsel_]

There is no discipline in which it is possible to measure humans qualitatively. That means that the definition of a "successful" person is going to vary from person to person. Some people will define success as wealth, others family, or happiness, or power, or honor. The reason I bring this up is because, since it is impossible to logically define what a successful person is, you cannot ascribe any traits to successful people. Any attempt to do so will only be a description of what successful is.

Another way the question might be interpreted is: what traits should a person have in order to live a better, more comfortable life. The main difference here is that the former was asking for traits of people who are successful, and the latter is asking for traits of people who will be successful. But even this question is subjective based on culture and personal beliefs. Being a Swami or an Imam might be heavily revered in one area, but laughed at in another. A person who defines success as wealth might consider psychopathy to a positive trait in gaining success due to the ruthlessness it enables, but an ascetic would balk at such a proposition. Clearly neither socioeconomic status, nor cultural values, can provide a universal, objective qualitative science.

Personally, I think that success varies from person to person. I'm not saying that to repeat what I said earlier about everyone having their own definition, but what I am saying that all of those personal definitions people have are all correct. Everyone lives life on their own journey. Some do "evil" and come to "good." Some do "evil" and are permanently scarred and incapable of absolution. There's no one to dictate success. There's no morality which permanently precludes success. A successful person is someone who dredges up the willpower to work for a life they deem successful, who loves and embraces his lot in life. An unsuccessful person is someone who inside is extremely discontent with his life, but is too scared or lazy to take action to change it, someone who resents the circumstances of his birth and fate. I cannot imagine someone living such a life and not being filled with total regret on his deathbed.

[_NT_sven]

Morally good and powerful at the same time, which is an oversimplified expression of the ideal for both Daoism and Confucianism.

[deleted_user0]

Morally good and powerful at the same time, which is an oversimplified expression of the ideal for both Daoism and Confucianism.

hows that possible when power corrupts?

[_NT_sven]

Morally good and powerful at the same time, which is an oversimplified expression of the ideal for both Daoism and Confucianism.

hows that possible when power corrupts?

Power does not necessarily corrupt for every possible individual. Political restrictions on power are to guard against general rules.

Edit: Certainly, one in supreme power would more easily succumb to inferiors' corruption (and vice versa). So in the whole it's likely that nobody as supreme rule could truly stay away from corruption. But that is still mathematical law.

... And hence an ideal. While overlooking the realistic weakness of this conjecture is a failure, we could still appreciate the thought that political power and morality should have some kind of dialectical interaction, rather than be separated once and for all.