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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary
I ironically support Bernie's run for presidency. The cultural shock would be so big in the USA, Europe would get a respite to fix its issues.
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Hang on. So what you mean is that ironically, you support it unironically.Dolan wrote:I ironically support Bernie's run for presidency. The cultural shock would be so big in the USA, Europe would get a respite to fix its issues.
I unironically support it unironically.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary
fightinfrenchman wrote:Biden save us
From what? Better healthcare system? Better education system, where the size of your wallet doesn't decide if you can get a higher education or not?
More fair wages? More fair taxes?
What exactly is your fear?
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Goodspeed wrote:Hang on. So what you mean is that ironically, you support it unironically.
"Ironically" because I wouldn't do it out of conviction. By this time, I don't really care who will be USA president. Might as well be Bernie Sanders, so Americans would go through a complete political carousel.
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iwillspankyou wrote:fightinfrenchman wrote:Biden save us
From what? Better healthcare system? Better education system, where the size of your wallet doesn't decide if you can get a higher education or not?
More fair wages? More fair taxes?
What exactly is your fear?
His fear is Bernie loses to Trump. All he cares about is winning.
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Iirc Sanders polled well against Trump even before the latter's laughable attempt at the presidency...?
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Goodspeed wrote:Iirc Sanders polled well against Trump even before the latter's laughable attempt at the presidency...?
Sanders lost against Hillary Clinton
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We're talking about the general though. He polled better against Trump than Clinton, no?
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We never really got to see how Bernie would poll as the Democratic candidate.
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Goodspeed wrote:We're talking about the general though. He polled better against Trump than Clinton, no?
When he wasn't the candidate. Hillary also polled better than Trump (and did get millions of more votes but whatever)
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Neither was Clinton at the time?fightinfrenchman wrote:Goodspeed wrote:We're talking about the general though. He polled better against Trump than Clinton, no?
When he wasn't the candidate.
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Goodspeed wrote:Neither was Clinton at the time?fightinfrenchman wrote:Goodspeed wrote:We're talking about the general though. He polled better against Trump than Clinton, no?
When he wasn't the candidate.
My point is his numbers would have gone down if he was the candidate and more attention was paid to him, whereas Clinton had already been the target of right-wing media for decades.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:Goodspeed wrote:Neither was Clinton at the time?Show hidden quotes
My point is his numbers would have gone down if he was the candidate and more attention was paid to him, whereas Clinton had already been the target of right-wing media for decades.
quite the opposite. He did not have any name recognition in those first big states, and could not neutralize the lead Clinton got. That is why he lost, + not getting much attention from mainstream media + DNC shenanigans from start to finish.
Before he ever got a chance, 90% of the superdelegates endorsed Clinton. This time they will not weight in, in the first round.
One other thing, Sanders now have all the name recognition he could ask for. And he has prepared a super team behind him.
Yeah, I think he has a good chance this time.
Anyway, I am very happy that he will spend his last good years, in the service of all of US (and us 2). There will be plenty for him to do, to undo all the shenanigans that Trump has put in motion ++++ some other good stuff like Medicare for all, and a fair tax system. Stop US war for profit all over the world. If he achieves those goals, then you will be happy??? I hope so.
Anyway, even now Bernie Sanders has won biggly - just look at how the political conversation has changed since he ran
(psst, Bernie Sanders have raised one million dollars in the first 3,5 hours of his announcement, on face DOUBLE to Kamala Harris - I dont think I have to say, that is from individuals, small donations )
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary
Looking forward to him spending time as President attacking Congressional Democrats for not being left enough
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fightinfrenchman wrote:Looking forward to him spending time as President attacking Congressional Democrats for not being left enough
me to They will have to be re-elected further down the road, so if they are not supporting their POTUS, with 80% of Dem voters behind him, good luck with that.
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iwillspankyou wrote:fightinfrenchman wrote:Looking forward to him spending time as President attacking Congressional Democrats for not being left enough
me to They will have to be re-elected further down the road, so if they are not supporting their POTUS, with 80% of Dem voters behind him, good luck with that.
*Laughs in 2010*
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That Bernie Sanders is not a team player
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fightinfrenchman wrote:That Bernie Sanders is not a team player
you mean he wants his policies to come through? and not to corp Dems? What a stupid answer from you! you did not address anything in that video and dodge any policy questions. Watch me ignoring you
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary
Bernie Sanders has 100,000 donors in 10 hours. Here he comes
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Getting desperate already
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