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If that should turn out right (doubt it) what would you win?


Having a president that is better than Trump, which so far any of the Democratic candidates (even Tulsi Gabbard) would succeed in doing

incrementalism will not do it though, especially not after the Trump administration. Beto is just another big Oil smuch. Anyways, he will be another candidate that beats the dust, very shortly.
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Having a president that is better than Trump, which so far any of the Democratic candidates (even Tulsi Gabbard) would succeed in doing

incrementalism will not do it though, especially not after the Trump administration. Beto is just another big Oil smuch. Anyways, he will be another candidate that beats the dust, very shortly.


Can you explain in what ways he is a "big Oil smuch"?
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@fightinfrenchman for you
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/ ... ?ind=E01++ the only other Dem in this list is Heidi Heitkamp, but she is did not survive the election. Beto is no 2. among 20 republican receivers of big oil donations.
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@spanky4ever Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these donations from individuals employed by companies in certain industries, rather than donations from companies themselves?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:@spanky4ever Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these donations from individuals employed by companies in certain industries, rather than donations from companies themselves?

you can read, its from all recipients, from Oil and Gas
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iwillspankyou wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:@spanky4ever Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these donations from individuals employed by companies in certain industries, rather than donations from companies themselves?

you can read, its from all recipients, from Oil and Gas


Don't you think it's possible that he has a lot of donations from people who work in that industry because it's a prominent industry in the state he represented?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
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fightinfrenchman wrote:@spanky4ever Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these donations from individuals employed by companies in certain industries, rather than donations from companies themselves?

you can read, its from all recipients, from Oil and Gas


Don't you think it's possible that he has a lot of donations from people who work in that industry because it's a prominent industry in the state he represented?

clinging on to a straw, are we ;) I think the poll show donations from oil and gas industry. I do think Beto got lots of donations from ppl like yourself, who actually bought his bogus. To be fair, back then when he was running against Ted Cruiz, I really wanted him to win. For this nothing burger to win against Sanders, is just another ball game :P
anyways, I do not think he will have a big support, The only candidate he will compeat against is prolly Biden (if he desides to run)
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@spanky4ever In the US whenever you donate to a candidate you have to state who your employer is. So do you think any donations I made in the 2016 and 2018 election cycles implies that the retail sales industry supports a specific candidate?
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@spanky4ever How do you feel about Beto's stance on climate change?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:@spanky4ever How do you feel about Beto's stance on climate change?

does he have any stance about fighting climate change? I did not catch that in his nothing-at-all-burger.
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Whatā€™s his stance @fightinfrenchman ? His 2020 website is just a money hub
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Definitely starting to regret saying Harris was the strongest candidate. She's starting to look like black Hillary. I guess Sanders is probably the strongest person they could run at the moment, because he can actually draw a crowd. Beto wouldn't be a good candidate. He doesn't have much experience, and he's too progressive to be a moderate but too moderate to be a progressive. That said, he'd make a good running mate. He can campaign like hell and raise plenty of money. Only downside to adding him to the ticket is that he isn't a governor/senator from a swing-state who can give the candidate a boost there, like Tim Kaine did.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsrjkQt60vI

This interview is a lot more intimate and thought provoking than the CNN town hall. Highly recommend. Dude sounds presidential af.
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Beto should have just stayed out and taken another run at the Senate. That would have been much more important to the country than him losing in the Presidential primary.
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Amsel_ wrote:Definitely starting to regret saying Harris was the strongest candidate. She's starting to look like black Hillary. I guess Sanders is probably the strongest person they could run at the moment, because he can actually draw a crowd. Beto wouldn't be a good candidate. He doesn't have much experience, and he's too progressive to be a moderate but too moderate to be a progressive. That said, he'd make a good running mate. He can campaign like hell and raise plenty of money. Only downside to adding him to the ticket is that he isn't a governor/senator from a swing-state who can give the candidate a boost there, like Tim Kaine did.

I think he tries to please everybody, and are to round around the edges - and he has no message, except for the hollow, pleasing stuff, and no specifics. In this day and age, its just not IT :huh:
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I think I might be all in for Buttigieg
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fightinfrenchman wrote:I think I might be all in for Buttigieg


Heā€™s a better version of Beto.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:I think I might be all in for Buttigieg


Heā€™s a better version of Beto.


Beto is still more attractive though
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
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fightinfrenchman wrote:I think I might be all in for Buttigieg


Heā€™s a better version of Beto.


Beto is still more attractive though

you think he is attractive? super good reason to vote;) vote for the most attractive person. This is not a vote for the most powerful person on earth, Nah, that's too boring, Let us make this a beauty contest.
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Beto is still more attractive though

you think he is attractive? super good reason to vote;) vote for the most attractive person. This is not a vote for the most powerful person on earth, Nah, that's too boring, Let us make this a beauty contest.

In kindergarten they had us vote between Bush and Gore in a scholastic magazine and I have a very vivid memoryof selecting Bush because I liked his picture better.
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you think he is attractive? super good reason to vote;) vote for the most attractive person. This is not a vote for the most powerful person on earth, Nah, that's too boring, Let us make this a beauty contest.

In kindergarten they had us vote between Bush and Gore in a scholastic magazine and I have a very vivid memoryof selecting Bush because I liked his picture better.


Literally the same thing happened to me and my parents got mad at me when I told them about it.
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Why would an elementary school even asks kids to do something like that? Really makes no sense in retrospect
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Merits are constructs. My method of choice is as justified as any other, and much simpler, more transparent in its bias.

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