fightinfrenchman wrote:You're totally wrong in saying that the Senate will eventually have to listen to people for policy. As long as Mitch McConnell is in charge of it they have no reason to do so, and they won't. Thinking otherwise is a pipe dream.
Mitch McConnell is the least popular in the Senate, He will be out very soon. Bad things will pass.
Wanna bet?
again? how much you should be broke soon
I'll bet you $50 Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate 2 years from today
fightinfrenchman wrote:You're totally wrong in saying that the Senate will eventually have to listen to people for policy. As long as Mitch McConnell is in charge of it they have no reason to do so, and they won't. Thinking otherwise is a pipe dream.
Mitch McConnell is the least popular in the Senate, He will be out very soon. Bad things will pass.
Wanna bet?
again? how much you should be broke soon
I'll bet you $50 Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate 2 years from today
before I take that bet, can you make an account of the other bets you make? should make a spreadsheet of it, You need to keep track of those bets, so you don't go bankrupt Anyways, I would "think" that Michy will be out in 2 years, and so will a lof of Republicans. Maybe with the exceptions of those who voted with the Dems on those to bills
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fightinfrenchman wrote:You're totally wrong in saying that the Senate will eventually have to listen to people for policy. As long as Mitch McConnell is in charge of it they have no reason to do so, and they won't. Thinking otherwise is a pipe dream.
Mitch McConnell is the least popular in the Senate, He will be out very soon. Bad things will pass.
Wanna bet?
again? how much you should be broke soon
I'll bet you $50 Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate 2 years from today
before I take that bet, can you make an account of the other bets you make? should make a spreadsheet of it, You need to keep track of those bets, so you don't go bankrupt Anyways, I would "think" that Michy will be out in 2 years, and so will a lof of Republicans. Maybe with the exceptions of those who voted with the Dems on those to bills
I'm willing to make two seperate bets here publicly, so I can be held accountable for them:
fightinfrenchman wrote:You're totally wrong in saying that the Senate will eventually have to listen to people for policy. As long as Mitch McConnell is in charge of it they have no reason to do so, and they won't. Thinking otherwise is a pipe dream.
Mitch McConnell is the least popular in the Senate, He will be out very soon. Bad things will pass.
Wanna bet?
again? how much you should be broke soon
I'll bet you $50 Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate 2 years from today
before I take that bet, can you make an account of the other bets you make? should make a spreadsheet of it, You need to keep track of those bets, so you don't go bankrupt Anyways, I would "think" that Michy will be out in 2 years, and so will a lof of Republicans. Maybe with the exceptions of those who voted with the Dems on those to bills
I'm willing to make two seperate bets here publicly, so I can be held accountable for them:
After the 2020 elections:
1.) Republicans will keep control of the Senate
2.) Mitch McConnell will still be in the Senate
when is Mitch midterm election coming up? I know republican will still have the most votes in 2020. should make that spreadsheet, and not take ppl for fools. Is that what you wanted to make a bet on, I thought you where an empty barrel. but are you also a cheat
Hippocrits are the worst of animals. I love elifants.
fightinfrenchman wrote:You're totally wrong in saying that the Senate will eventually have to listen to people for policy. As long as Mitch McConnell is in charge of it they have no reason to do so, and they won't. Thinking otherwise is a pipe dream.
Mitch McConnell is the least popular in the Senate, He will be out very soon. Bad things will pass.
Wanna bet?
again? how much you should be broke soon
I'll bet you $50 Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate 2 years from today
before I take that bet, can you make an account of the other bets you make? should make a spreadsheet of it, You need to keep track of those bets, so you don't go bankrupt Anyways, I would "think" that Michy will be out in 2 years, and so will a lof of Republicans. Maybe with the exceptions of those who voted with the Dems on those to bills
I'm willing to make two seperate bets here publicly, so I can be held accountable for them:
After the 2020 elections:
1.) Republicans will keep control of the Senate
2.) Mitch McConnell will still be in the Senate
when is Mitch midterm election coming up? I know republican will still have the most votes in 2020. should make that spreadsheet, and not take ppl for fools. Is that what you wanted to make a bet on, I thought you where an empty barrel. but are you also a cheat
I'm only a cheat with people who consider alt+d to be cheating.
But seriously McConnell is up for election again in 2020. I'm willing to bet $50 on both these outcomes: That McConnell will win reelection in 2020 and that Republicans will keep control of the Senate in 2020.
Amsel_ wrote:Definitely starting to regret saying Harris was the strongest candidate. She's starting to look like black Hillary. I guess Sanders is probably the strongest person they could run at the moment, because he can actually draw a crowd. Beto wouldn't be a good candidate. He doesn't have much experience, and he's too progressive to be a moderate but too moderate to be a progressive. That said, he'd make a good running mate. He can campaign like hell and raise plenty of money. Only downside to adding him to the ticket is that he isn't a governor/senator from a swing-state who can give the candidate a boost there, like Tim Kaine did.
I think he tries to please everybody, and are to round around the edges - and he has no message, except for the hollow, pleasing stuff, and no specifics. In this day and age, its just not IT
Well to be fair, Obama and Trump got pretty far due to their personality.
I know it, but this time and age needs ppl who are dedicated to some real issues, and for a long time you did not have any candidates who where, But now you have a few good for YOU an US
I'm talking about candidates in terms of how strong they'll be in the general election. Electability is different from who talks the most about "real issues." Going into the election with the mindset that any candidate is going to bring big reforms is a mistake, since it's extremely likely that republicans will maintain a narrow Senate majority and democrats will maintain a narrow House majority. If a progressive wins, he won't be able to legislate at all.
I think you are wrong, Even Senate will have to listen to what ppl actually want for policy. In the long run, they could all be out of office if they do not listen very carefully now. I think they already know it. How else would you judge that the bill to get out of Yemen was passed? and the "emergency bill" got voted down by the Congress And the Senate. Going forward, it will not be "business as usual" because ppl are actually paying attention to what their lawmakers are doing.
Whenever the Senate votes on something, and the result isn't along party lines, it's because powerful people in the background want it. The average person wasn't passionate about ending a war the war in Yemen - they didn't even know they was a war in Yemen; nor was there much concern over overturning an emergency declaration. Most people support universal healthcare. Did they vote for that? Most people support stronger borders. Did they vote for that?
Conservatives are notorious for always dragging their feet in the mud, and refusing even common sense things. Often times they'll conjure up vague "Constitutional concerns" or "Conservative principles" that never existed, just to have an excuse to sabotage legislation. They do it to themselves; look at how badly Speaker Ryan sabotaged the republican agenda in 2017-2019. You really think they won't do it to the democrats, whom they have no reason to compromise with? It would be a walk in the park for them to stall until the 2022 midterms. Regardless of the candidate, the only thing a democrat President would bring is more institutional power to the left, and bringing all judge nominees to a screeching halt. That's why I'm more interested in "Who would win?" as if it were a sports game, rather than what the outcome of the election would entail for the country.
fightinfrenchman wrote:I'm willing to bet $50 on both these outcomes: That McConnell will win reelection in 2020 and that Republicans will keep control of the Senate in 2020.
fightinfrenchman wrote:I'm willing to bet $50 on both these outcomes: That McConnell will win reelection in 2020 and that Republicans will keep control of the Senate in 2020.
fightinfrenchman wrote:You're totally wrong in saying that the Senate will eventually have to listen to people for policy. As long as Mitch McConnell is in charge of it they have no reason to do so, and they won't. Thinking otherwise is a pipe dream.
Mitch McConnell is the least popular in the Senate, He will be out very soon. Bad things will pass.
Wanna bet?
again? how much you should be broke soon
I'll bet you $50 Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate 2 years from today
before I take that bet, can you make an account of the other bets you make? should make a spreadsheet of it, You need to keep track of those bets, so you don't go bankrupt Anyways, I would "think" that Michy will be out in 2 years, and so will a lof of Republicans. Maybe with the exceptions of those who voted with the Dems on those to bills
I'm willing to make two seperate bets here publicly, so I can be held accountable for them:
After the 2020 elections:
1.) Republicans will keep control of the Senate
2.) Mitch McConnell will still be in the Senate
Throw in Trump getting reelected? Since my betting the opposite was "dumb"
I would also bet against Rs keeping the senate. McConnell will probably get reelected though.
fightinfrenchman wrote:You're totally wrong in saying that the Senate will eventually have to listen to people for policy. As long as Mitch McConnell is in charge of it they have no reason to do so, and they won't. Thinking otherwise is a pipe dream.
Mitch McConnell is the least popular in the Senate, He will be out very soon. Bad things will pass.
Wanna bet?
again? how much you should be broke soon
I'll bet you $50 Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate 2 years from today
before I take that bet, can you make an account of the other bets you make? should make a spreadsheet of it, You need to keep track of those bets, so you don't go bankrupt Anyways, I would "think" that Michy will be out in 2 years, and so will a lof of Republicans. Maybe with the exceptions of those who voted with the Dems on those to bills
I'm willing to make two seperate bets here publicly, so I can be held accountable for them:
After the 2020 elections:
1.) Republicans will keep control of the Senate
2.) Mitch McConnell will still be in the Senate
when is Mitch midterm election coming up? I know republican will still have the most votes in 2020. should make that spreadsheet, and not take ppl for fools. Is that what you wanted to make a bet on, I thought you where an empty barrel. but are you also a cheat
I'm only a cheat with people who consider alt+d to be cheating.
But seriously McConnell is up for election again in 2020. I'm willing to bet $50 on both these outcomes: That McConnell will win reelection in 2020 and that Republicans will keep control of the Senate in 2020.
Your ON. I will take your bet, but seriously, it could be more affordable to have arguments in stead of bets
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Goodspeed wrote:The same way they gained what was it 40 something seats in congress?
They lost Senate seats that same night. Baring something unforeseen, like a war or economic crash, 2022 is probably the soonest that democrats could take the Senate.
And that's only a possibility if Trump is reelected, otherwise it goes the other way. Even if you're getting landslide numbers on the generic ballot, a bad map can cripple your gains.
It's looking like an uphill battle for sure. But democratic voters are energized already, and there are still 1.5 years left of Trump fucking up and the democratic congress sending bills to the senate, which could make some R senators vulnerable. I believe with time, chances of dems winning will improve. Whether they improve enough remains to be seen.
Btw you said they need to gain 4 seats, but they only need 3 if they win the presidency.
https://youtu.be/8UV9lEnmnuU the numbers are impressive. What is not impressive, is the lack of transparency. Makes one wonder if there is something fishy, that is stinking here.
Hippocrits are the worst of animals. I love elifants.