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Wanna bet?

again? how much
you should be broke soon :hehe:


I'll bet you $50 Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate 2 years from today
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:
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again? how much
you should be broke soon :hehe:


I'll bet you $50 Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate 2 years from today

before I take that bet, can you make an account of the other bets you make? should make a spreadsheet of it, You need to keep track of those bets, so you don't go bankrupt :P
Anyways, I would "think" that Michy will be out in 2 years, and so will a lof of Republicans. Maybe with the exceptions of those who voted with the Dems on those to bills ;)
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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I'll bet you $50 Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate 2 years from today

before I take that bet, can you make an account of the other bets you make? should make a spreadsheet of it, You need to keep track of those bets, so you don't go bankrupt :P
Anyways, I would "think" that Michy will be out in 2 years, and so will a lof of Republicans. Maybe with the exceptions of those who voted with the Dems on those to bills ;)


I'm willing to make two seperate bets here publicly, so I can be held accountable for them:

After the 2020 elections:

1.) Republicans will keep control of the Senate

2.) Mitch McConnell will still be in the Senate
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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before I take that bet, can you make an account of the other bets you make? should make a spreadsheet of it, You need to keep track of those bets, so you don't go bankrupt :P
Anyways, I would "think" that Michy will be out in 2 years, and so will a lof of Republicans. Maybe with the exceptions of those who voted with the Dems on those to bills ;)


I'm willing to make two seperate bets here publicly, so I can be held accountable for them:

After the 2020 elections:

1.) Republicans will keep control of the Senate

2.) Mitch McConnell will still be in the Senate

when is Mitch midterm election coming up?
I know republican will still have the most votes in 2020.
should make that spreadsheet, and not take ppl for fools.
Is that what you wanted to make a bet on, I thought you where an empty barrel. but are you also a cheat :?:
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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I'm willing to make two seperate bets here publicly, so I can be held accountable for them:

After the 2020 elections:

1.) Republicans will keep control of the Senate

2.) Mitch McConnell will still be in the Senate

when is Mitch midterm election coming up?
I know republican will still have the most votes in 2020.
should make that spreadsheet, and not take ppl for fools.
Is that what you wanted to make a bet on, I thought you where an empty barrel. but are you also a cheat :?:



I'm only a cheat with people who consider alt+d to be cheating.

But seriously McConnell is up for election again in 2020. I'm willing to bet $50 on both these outcomes: That McConnell will win reelection in 2020 and that Republicans will keep control of the Senate in 2020.
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Seems likely.
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I'm talking about candidates in terms of how strong they'll be in the general election. Electability is different from who talks the most about "real issues." Going into the election with the mindset that any candidate is going to bring big reforms is a mistake, since it's extremely likely that republicans will maintain a narrow Senate majority and democrats will maintain a narrow House majority. If a progressive wins, he won't be able to legislate at all.

I think you are wrong, Even Senate will have to listen to what ppl actually want for policy. In the long run, they could all be out of office if they do not listen very carefully now. I think they already know it. How else would you judge that the bill to get out of Yemen was passed? and the "emergency bill" got voted down by the Congress And the Senate. Going forward, it will not be "business as usual" because ppl are actually paying attention to what their lawmakers are doing.

Whenever the Senate votes on something, and the result isn't along party lines, it's because powerful people in the background want it. The average person wasn't passionate about ending a war the war in Yemen - they didn't even know they was a war in Yemen; nor was there much concern over overturning an emergency declaration. Most people support universal healthcare. Did they vote for that? Most people support stronger borders. Did they vote for that?

Conservatives are notorious for always dragging their feet in the mud, and refusing even common sense things. Often times they'll conjure up vague "Constitutional concerns" or "Conservative principles" that never existed, just to have an excuse to sabotage legislation. They do it to themselves; look at how badly Speaker Ryan sabotaged the republican agenda in 2017-2019. You really think they won't do it to the democrats, whom they have no reason to compromise with? It would be a walk in the park for them to stall until the 2022 midterms. Regardless of the candidate, the only thing a democrat President would bring is more institutional power to the left, and bringing all judge nominees to a screeching halt. That's why I'm more interested in "Who would win?" as if it were a sports game, rather than what the outcome of the election would entail for the country.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:I'm willing to bet $50 on both these outcomes: That McConnell will win reelection in 2020 and that Republicans will keep control of the Senate in 2020.

Can I get in on this? lol It's free money.
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Amsel_ wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:I'm willing to bet $50 on both these outcomes: That McConnell will win reelection in 2020 and that Republicans will keep control of the Senate in 2020.

Can I get in on this? lol It's free money.


I'll consider it, I'll get back to you tomorrow
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I am not a betting person, Mich will face election in 2020, and if he loses, he will be out in 2021,
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iwillspankyou wrote:I am not a betting person, Mich will face election in 2020, and if he loses, he will be out in 2021,


He's not gonna lose, he's from Kentucky for goodness sake
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:
iwillspankyou wrote:I am not a betting person, Mich will face election in 2020, and if he loses, he will be out in 2021,


He's not gonna lose, he's from Kentucky for goodness sake

we will see. GOP politics are not very popular these days. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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iwillspankyou wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:
iwillspankyou wrote:I am not a betting person, Mich will face election in 2020, and if he loses, he will be out in 2021,


He's not gonna lose, he's from Kentucky for goodness sake

we will see. GOP politics are not very popular these days. :lol:


Not nationally, but that doesn't mean much
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^_^ :santa:
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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Put me down for 10000 zimbabwedollars on both counts.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:
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before I take that bet, can you make an account of the other bets you make? should make a spreadsheet of it, You need to keep track of those bets, so you don't go bankrupt :P
Anyways, I would "think" that Michy will be out in 2 years, and so will a lof of Republicans. Maybe with the exceptions of those who voted with the Dems on those to bills ;)


I'm willing to make two seperate bets here publicly, so I can be held accountable for them:

After the 2020 elections:

1.) Republicans will keep control of the Senate

2.) Mitch McConnell will still be in the Senate
Throw in Trump getting reelected? Since my betting the opposite was "dumb" :P

I would also bet against Rs keeping the senate. McConnell will probably get reelected though.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:
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when is Mitch midterm election coming up?
I know republican will still have the most votes in 2020.
should make that spreadsheet, and not take ppl for fools.
Is that what you wanted to make a bet on, I thought you where an empty barrel. but are you also a cheat :?:



I'm only a cheat with people who consider alt+d to be cheating.

But seriously McConnell is up for election again in 2020. I'm willing to bet $50 on both these outcomes: That McConnell will win reelection in 2020 and that Republicans will keep control of the Senate in 2020.


Your ON. I will take your bet, but seriously, it could be more affordable to have arguments in stead of bets
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No, I want it here and on the record that @fightinfrenchman accepts my bet!
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umeu wrote:No, I want it here and on the record that @fightinfrenchman accepts my bet!


You are going to pay it!
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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Literally how are the democrats supposed to gain four seats when this is the map?
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Imo Colorado and Maine go blue; Alabama goes red, and the rest are holds.
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The same way they gained what was it 40 something seats in congress?
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Goodspeed wrote:The same way they gained what was it 40 something seats in congress?

They lost Senate seats that same night. Baring something unforeseen, like a war or economic crash, 2022 is probably the soonest that democrats could take the Senate.
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It's looking like an uphill battle for sure. But democratic voters are energized already, and there are still 1.5 years left of Trump fucking up and the democratic congress sending bills to the senate, which could make some R senators vulnerable. I believe with time, chances of dems winning will improve. Whether they improve enough remains to be seen.

Btw you said they need to gain 4 seats, but they only need 3 if they win the presidency.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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https://youtu.be/8UV9lEnmnuU
the numbers are impressive. What is not impressive, is the lack of transparency. Makes one wonder if there is something fishy, that is stinking here.
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