US Politics Megathread

[deleted_user0]

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[gibson]

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Lol be nice to bram

[n0el]

BRAMBOY MAGA 2020

[tedere12]

funny thread

[Sargsyan]

https://www.facebook.com/14581119077498 ... 672645580/

[Dolan]

Really makes you think what kind of times we are living if the concept of traditional family is seen as a red flag for extremism...

Do you really think that the concept of a "traditional" family is seen as extremism?

Well, that's what gibson implied. Later he backpedalled.
He implied that Pence appeals to the far right because of his conservative values. I mean, sure, you could think that it's weird for someone to hold such values in the 21st century, because that's what we've been habituated to think by the media et al, but if you put things in perspective, it's weird that someone would be shamed because he holds conservative values. I would understand if they were supporters of something completely cretinous like the Nazi Generalplan Ost, then you could indeed call them far right. But simply supporting a conservative outlook on life, such as maintaining the traditional nuclear family and traditional gender roles doesn't quite sound like arguing in favour of genocide.
People have simply lost their compass and just throw around labels without thinking things through first.

And I'm not saying all this because I subscribe to Mike Pence's point of view. I found it weird that he would get bashed for something that isn't even an extremist point of view.

I think if Mike Pence ran, he would beat both Trump and Biden.

He's a nice guy, so bleeding heart liberals wouldn't have anything against him either. And Republicunts would appreciate his conservative family values.

And he doesn't have that shady, molester vibe like Biden, he's a respectable family man.

I hope he runs. Would be a slaughter for R's across the board. He couldn't even have won his re-elect for governor in a solid red state.

I don't know, everyone was also 100% sure Trump would never win the presidency. And yet he did. I guess the US electoral system makes things a lot less predictable, because it's not simply based on the result of the popular vote.

[Dolan]

believing in creationism is anti science. Being against transgender rights is just being an asshole.

Believing in creationism is just a sign of self delusion and maybe low IQ. Or both.

But transsexualism is still officially a mental illness, it's a diagnostic called "gender dysphoria" in the manual used by professionals from all over the world. Why would someone who is classified as mentally ill get any special rights like their own bathrooms or get promoted in the media just because they have a particular mental illness? Seems like we have our priorities upside down.

[fightinfrenchman]

Why would someone who is classified as mentally ill get any special rights like their own bathrooms

Yeah I'm also outraged by building owners being forced to build special "trans" bathrooms, which trans people are clearly demanding. The whole controversy is based on the fact that they want their own, seperate bathrooms. I'm glad you understand this basic fact

[gibson]

believing in creationism is anti science. Being against transgender rights is just being an asshole.

Believing in creationism is just a sign of self delusion and maybe low IQ. Or both.

But transsexualism is still officially a mental illness, it's a diagnostic called "gender dysphoria" in the manual used by professionals from all over the world. Why would someone who is classified as mentally ill get any special rights like their own bathrooms or get promoted in the media just because they have a particular mental illness? Seems like we have our priorities upside down.

It's not about giving them special rights its about treating them the same, which Mike Pence believes they shouldn't be treated the same.

[fightinfrenchman]

@gibson You clearly don't understand how trans people want their own special bathrooms. Dolan understands this which is why it's worth engaging with him in good faith

[n0el]

@Dolan Trump is popular because of two reasons that Pence can not replicate. Strong personality and populist economic message. Pence is a weird religious zealot who only serves to lock in the Evangelical vote for Trump.

[fightinfrenchman]

@Dolan Trump is popular because of two reasons that Pence can not replicate. Strong personality and populist economic message. Pence is a weird religious zealot who only serves to lock in the Evangelical vote for Trump.

Trumps isn't popular

[n0el]

he was more popular than Clinton where it counted.

[fightinfrenchman]

He was less popular than Clinton who was already pretty unpopular. He remains quite unpopular

[n0el]

He was less popular than Clinton who was already pretty unpopular. He remains quite unpopular

Still in denial.

[fightinfrenchman]

About what, exactly?

[n0el]

Why Trump won

[fightinfrenchman]

If you think I'm skeptical that Trump was more popular than Clinton than yes, I am

[kami_ryu]

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[fightinfrenchman]

If you think I'm skeptical that Trump was more popular than Clinton than yes, I am

lmao I'm not. and CO is a blue state.

She got more votes than him

[n0el]

I said where it counted. Where he WON. Not in California or New York where Clinton racked up her popular vote advantage.

[fightinfrenchman]

You started by saying Trump is popular. Among Republicans he is but generally he is not, despite the economy

[n0el]

You started by saying Trump is popular. Among Republicans he is but generally he is not, despite the economy

It was in context against Pence.

[fightinfrenchman]

You started by saying Trump is popular. Among Republicans he is but generally he is not, despite the economy

It was in context against Pence.

Has there been any polling of Pence vs. Trump/potential Democratic nominees?

[deleted_user0]

believing in creationism is anti science. Being against transgender rights is just being an asshole.

Believing in creationism is just a sign of self delusion and maybe low IQ. Or both.

But transsexualism is still officially a mental illness, it's a diagnostic called "gender dysphoria" in the manual used by professionals from all over the world. Why would someone who is classified as mentally ill get any special rights like their own bathrooms or get promoted in the media just because they have a particular mental illness? Seems like we have our priorities upside down.

Oh, like those physically sick people in wheelchairs who don't get special bathrooms?

Just before you go off on some other delusional tangent full of assumptions, take a moment for a deep breath, then consider that your argument is flawed. Your conclusion doesn't follow from your premise. Not saying that they need, "deserve" or ought to have special bathrooms, but nothing you said even remotely proves that they don't.

Impartiolannnn, el rescate!