US Politics Megathread

[deleted_user]

I did it.

[Horsemen]

Tbh, voters should pass a test first before being allowed to vote. But then that would reduce political participation to just a small crowd of informed citizens and frustrate a majority of the clueless.

The franchise should be limited to a restricted class of individuals who can prove they have the financial means to afford a good education

[Dolan]

Tbh, voters should pass a test first before being allowed to vote. But then that would reduce political participation to just a small crowd of informed citizens and frustrate a majority of the clueless.

The franchise should be limited to a restricted class of individuals who can prove they have the financial means to afford a good education

Uhm, I know where this idea is coming from but I think it would be counterproductive. There are lots of smart and informed people who are also poor. We'd be kicking ourselves in the balls if we excluded people who are capable of making an informed choice, just because they happen to own nothing.

It's baffling how sometimes intelligence can be found in the most random, unexpected places. It's really not only found in affluent families or among those who could afford an education. And anyway, what do you do with people who have access to free public education?

Well, actually, I know the answer. People who typically propose such a thing do it because they think only those who own property or capital should be able to vote. And they say this because that would pretty much restrict politics only to those who share the same interests. And that wouldn't really solve anything, it would send us back to some kind of financial oligarchy.

[Goodspeed]

Any system that excludes certain demographics from voting risks (I would argue all but ensures) that said demographic won't be represented in government, and will be exploited/marginalized.

[Dolan]

Any system that excludes certain demographics from voting risks (I would argue all but ensures) that said demographic won't be represented in government, and will be exploited/marginalized.

Maybe everyone should have the right to vote, but some people's votes should carry more weight, because they're more informed and capable of understanding policies. So they know the full implications of casting a vote for a particular candidate/party. Or, at least, much better than those who are completely uninformed or clueless about policies and who just vote based on appearances and charisma.

[fightinfrenchman]

Another case of Biden Derangement Syndrome

[Goodspeed]

Any system that excludes certain demographics from voting risks (I would argue all but ensures) that said demographic won't be represented in government, and will be exploited/marginalized.

Maybe everyone should have the right to vote, but some people's votes should carry more weight, because they're more informed and capable of understanding policies. So they know the full implications of casting a vote for a particular candidate/party. Or, at least, much better than those who are completely uninformed or clueless about policies and who just vote based on appearances and charisma.

That would mitigate the problem somewhat but it's still there.
I think simply popular vote is the lesser of the evils. The poor majority is the demographic that most needs the government to work for them, so imo it's not an issue if their electoral voice is a little louder than that of the rich minority (which, in most cases, has other ways to get what it wants anyway).

[n0el]

[fightinfrenchman]

Seriously what is going on with people losing their minds about Pete? He's not even winning!

[n0el]

Any system that excludes certain demographics from voting risks (I would argue all but ensures) that said demographic won't be represented in government, and will be exploited/marginalized.

Maybe everyone should have the right to vote, but some people's votes should carry more weight, because they're more informed and capable of understanding policies. So they know the full implications of casting a vote for a particular candidate/party. Or, at least, much better than those who are completely uninformed or clueless about policies and who just vote based on appearances and charisma.

Let's just have a monarchy then?

[fightinfrenchman]

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Any system that excludes certain demographics from voting risks (I would argue all but ensures) that said demographic won't be represented in government, and will be exploited/marginalized.

Maybe everyone should have the right to vote, but some people's votes should carry more weight, because they're more informed and capable of understanding policies. So they know the full implications of casting a vote for a particular candidate/party. Or, at least, much better than those who are completely uninformed or clueless about policies and who just vote based on appearances and charisma.

Let's just have a monarchy then?

What's wrong with a monarchy?

Sounds like a good topic for a new thread!

[n0el]

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Any system that excludes certain demographics from voting risks (I would argue all but ensures) that said demographic won't be represented in government, and will be exploited/marginalized.

Maybe everyone should have the right to vote, but some people's votes should carry more weight, because they're more informed and capable of understanding policies. So they know the full implications of casting a vote for a particular candidate/party. Or, at least, much better than those who are completely uninformed or clueless about policies and who just vote based on appearances and charisma.

Let's just have a monarchy then?

What's wrong with a monarchy?

nothing apparently. we just let the King/Queen decide for us!

[Horsemen]

The monarch represents the inter generational constitution of the modern nation state

[fightinfrenchman]

Authoritarians fuck off

[fightinfrenchman]

Arguing with someone on Twitter who says that Biden is racist despite having the highest support from black voters among all the candidates

[Amsel_]

>phase one trade deal with China just signed
>congress set to pass USMCA

[n0el]

As much as I still dislike the deal, USMCA makes huge stride in getting rid of the ICS system.

[fightinfrenchman]

@Amsel_ What does the USMCA have to do with frogs

[fightinfrenchman]

I hope Biden gets us back in the TPP

[n0el]

I hope Biden gets us back in the TPP

Do you like democracy?

[fightinfrenchman]

I hope Biden gets us back in the TPP

Do you like democracy?

In some situations

[n0el]

Okay cheaper goods are more important

[fightinfrenchman]

Yes that is exactly the point that I am making. Thank you for understanding

[Riotcoke]

I think the Uk election result sort of shows that you guys need a moderate, if you get Bernie or Warren you'll have the same landslide we've had here.

[n0el]

I think the Uk election result sort of shows that you guys need a moderate, if you get Bernie or Warren you'll have the same landslide we've had here.

we don't have a massive 3rd party thing like Brexit affecting people's votes.