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The first part is doing absolutely everything in one's power to stop a Bloomberg nomination. Trust me, I'd vote for practically any other candidate!
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Cometk wrote: practically any other candidate!
Are there any candidates that you think are worse than Bloomberg?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
Cometk wrote: practically any other candidate!
Are there any candidates that you think are worse than Bloomberg?
Probably not. I will vote for any other candidate that wins a non-rigged democratic primary. If itā€™s rigged then Iā€™ll have to see the extent to which it was rigged before deciding if I vote or not.
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What would constitute a rigged primary to you? If, for example, everything followed processes that are already allowed but you dislike, would you consider that rigging?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:What would constitute a rigged primary to you? If, for example, everything followed processes that are already allowed but you dislike, would you consider that rigging?
Leftists consider a primary rigged if less people vote for Bernie Sanders than a moderate candidate
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fightinfrenchman wrote:What would constitute a rigged primary to you? If, for example, everything followed processes that are already allowed but you dislike, would you consider that rigging?
gibson wrote:Leftists consider a primary rigged if less people vote for Bernie Sanders than a moderate candidate
I would consider it a fair election when they don't change the rules at the very last minute, like the did in the 2016 Nevada Caucus
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Yea you just said how theyā€™d be the same, which is obviously untrue
They'd both be bad. Trump would be worse in some ways and Bloomberg would be worse in some ways. I will never vote for either.
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Yea you just said how theyā€™d be the same, which is obviously untrue
They'd both be bad. Trump would be worse in some ways and Bloomberg would be worse in some ways. I will never vote for either.
Doesn't that imply that you think they're equally bad?
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So if one is better than the other, why wouldn't you vote for the better one?
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The precedent and lasting impact (damage) for the Democratic Party outweighs being slightly better on policy. That's why Bloomberg is no better than Trump
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fightinfrenchman wrote:So if one is better than the other, why wouldn't you vote for the better one?
Would you vote for Ted Cruz against Donald Trump?
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n0el wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:So if one is better than the other, why wouldn't you vote for the better one?
Would you vote for Ted Cruz against Donald Trump?
Yes
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Cometk wrote:The precedent and lasting impact (damage) for the Democratic Party outweighs being slightly better on policy. That's why Bloomberg is no better than Trump
In what specific aspects do you think Bloomberg would be better on policy? Because I feel like they're significant enough to vote for him.
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Cometk wrote:The precedent and lasting impact (damage) for the Democratic Party outweighs being slightly better on policy. That's why Bloomberg is no better than Trump
I guess the lasting and irreversible impact that Trump policy has the potential of helping to reek on the earth isnt as bad, nor is the potential 2 supreme court justices who will be enacting an anti LGBTQ and anti women policy for the next 40 years anywhere near as bad as the "damage" to the democratic party.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
Cometk wrote:The precedent and lasting impact (damage) for the Democratic Party outweighs being slightly better on policy. That's why Bloomberg is no better than Trump
In what specific aspects do you think Bloomberg would be better on policy? Because I feel like they're significant enough to vote for him.
He would have a more reasonable stance on foreign policy and ISIS, and might actually listen to his military advisers. Instead of defying literally everyone like Trump to make a decision purely for personal gain.
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Cometk wrote:The precedent and lasting impact (damage) for the Democratic Party outweighs being slightly better on policy. That's why Bloomberg is no better than Trump
I guess the lasting and irreversible impact that Trump policy has the potential of helping to reek on the earth isnt as bad.
If it unites instead of weakens the democratic party into nominating a non-terrible candidate in 2024, maybe that's for the better.
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I mean, we've already had one term of Trump. Are you really willing to risk the damage of a second term in hopes that you get a more left candidate in 2024?
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Not just more left - a candidate who didn't buy the election
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So anybody who is currently running other than Steyer and Bloomberg would be okay with you?
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n0el wrote:
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RefluxSemantic wrote:I am the ear and I pretend to be involved with politics but I dont care about any ideologies or policies unless it directly affects me and I base my entire opinion on how the supporters of candidates I dont like behave.
Funny you calling him out for that when people like yourself noel trevor etc talk about how youd rather have Trump then bloomberg
For the record I never said that
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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Talking about actual policies, rather than useless semantics seems difficult for you ear. Your semantics give me reflux.
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RefluxSemantic wrote:Talking about actual policies, rather than useless semantics seems difficult for you ear. Your semantics give me reflux.
I don't understand what you mean by this. I'm asking questions in order to better understand peoples positions, I don't want to make assumptions based on limited information.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:So anybody who is currently running other than Steyer and Bloomberg would be okay with you?
I would be more okay with Steyer than Bloomberg. Need more info on Steyer.
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