There's plenty wrong with Biden. I'm asking why aren't you plainly saying that Trump trying to get people killed is wrong? It's very easy to say thatiwillspankyou wrote:Why is it impossible for you to hold 2 thoughts in mind, that is separate?? Things are not black OR white, and Biden is nowhere from snowy white.fightinfrenchman wrote:Why not just say it's bad for Trump to encourage violence. Why is that impossible for you to do
This thing is just uncomprehensive to me; you have two choices, and you think the one you select is all good? And you do not question the policies? Or make demands?
This to me is just plain stupidity. Sorry, I just cannot put it in more polite wordings.
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@fightinfrenchman said
Why not talk about those flawed for once
Cmon, name them. I encourage you to do so, please frenshy, just to keep the discussion here, honest
Now we are talking.There's plenty wrong with Biden.
Why not talk about those flawed for once
Cmon, name them. I encourage you to do so, please frenshy, just to keep the discussion here, honest
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Because he's running against somebody who is much worse loliwillspankyou wrote:@fightinfrenchman saidWhy not talk about those flawed for onceThere's plenty wrong with Biden.
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I'm probably missing something, but I don't see why Trump's statement of "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" would be promoting violence.
That there is shooting when there is looting just seems as a logical consequence to me. When you have so many people with firearms, of course there will be shooting when people try to take what is not theirs (owners defending their stuff). Then when the police try to stop them, the risk is high there will be shootings as well, because 1: police officers in the US seem really trigger happy, 2: the public is armed with firearms and the police must defend themselves if shot at.
As I said, I’m probably missing something. Could anyone be kind to explain it to me?
That there is shooting when there is looting just seems as a logical consequence to me. When you have so many people with firearms, of course there will be shooting when people try to take what is not theirs (owners defending their stuff). Then when the police try to stop them, the risk is high there will be shootings as well, because 1: police officers in the US seem really trigger happy, 2: the public is armed with firearms and the police must defend themselves if shot at.
As I said, I’m probably missing something. Could anyone be kind to explain it to me?
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Yes, you're missing a brain capable of critical thinking. When you acquire one of those please revisit this postmartinspjuth wrote:I'm probably missing something, but I don't see why Trump's statement of "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" would be promoting violence.
That there is shooting when there is looting just seems as a logical consequence to me. When you have so many people with firearms, of course there will be shooting when people try to take what is not theirs (owners defending their stuff). Then when the police try to stop them, the risk is high there will be shootings as well, because 1: police officers in the US seem really trigger happy, 2: the public is armed with firearms and the police must defend themselves if shot at.
As I said, I’m probably missing something. Could anyone be kind to explain it to me?
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What a constructive response.fightinfrenchman wrote:Yes, you're missing a brain capable of critical thinking. When you acquire one of those please revisit this postmartinspjuth wrote:I'm probably missing something, but I don't see why Trump's statement of "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" would be promoting violence.
That there is shooting when there is looting just seems as a logical consequence to me. When you have so many people with firearms, of course there will be shooting when people try to take what is not theirs (owners defending their stuff). Then when the police try to stop them, the risk is high there will be shootings as well, because 1: police officers in the US seem really trigger happy, 2: the public is armed with firearms and the police must defend themselves if shot at.
As I said, I’m probably missing something. Could anyone be kind to explain it to me?
You seem to really care and want things to change in the US and the world. Then you should try to help people understand why your way of thinking is right, whether they have a brain capable of critical thinking or not. If I don’t understand what I’m doing wrong, I won’t know I should stop.
Saying that someone doesn’t have a brain capable of critical thinking doesn’t help your cause one bit.
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Well, you are missing a brain capable of not grasping the issue that murica is not the navel of the world @fightinfrenchman , and you are being very impolite.fightinfrenchman wrote:Yes, you're missing a brain capable of critical thinking @fightinfrenchman . When you acquire one of those please revisit this postmartinspjuth wrote:I'm probably missing something, but I don't see why Trump's statement of "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" would be promoting violence.
That there is shooting when there is looting just seems as a logical consequence to me. When you have so many people with firearms, of course there will be shooting when people try to take what is not theirs (owners defending their stuff). Then when the police try to stop them, the risk is high there will be shootings as well, because 1: police officers in the US seem really trigger happy, 2: the public is armed with firearms and the police must defend themselves if shot at.
As I said, I’m probably missing something. Could anyone be kind to explain it to me?
I can tell you though, my sweedish friend @martinspjuth , that this quote was used by a KKK man back in time. That is why its so poisonous.
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Okay, thanks for explaining @spanky4ever
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not easy to know, but some muricans expect you to. Its pretty funny, actually, especially when they are offended if you do not "get it" @martinspjuth
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Yeah, back to black or white, or stupid or more stupidfightinfrenchman wrote:Because he's running against somebody who is much worse loliwillspankyou wrote:@fightinfrenchman saidWhy not talk about those flawed for onceThere's plenty wrong with Biden.
Btw, did you ever watch "dumb and dumber"? Not sure why that silly movie came into my brain Made me laugh out loud many times
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Idk about what the KKK has to do with it, but the quote is historically associated with segregationists and police brutality from what I read.martinspjuth wrote:Okay, thanks for explaining @spanky4ever
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That is KKK, stupidoccamslightsaber wrote:Idk about what the KKK has to do with it, but the quote is historically associated with segregationists and police brutality from what I read.martinspjuth wrote:Okay, thanks for explaining @spanky4ever
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A few election things that to come out of this:
- Klobuchar is pretty much now at 0% chance to get the VP nod from Biden. I think Harris will probably firm into a strong favourite following this.
- I genuinely have no idea what Trump's campaign plan is. We saw him try the immigration thing in 2018 and that fall on its arse. He was going to be able to run on the economy pre C-19, how it will look in a few months is anything but certain though. Without the economy, where has he gained votes in the last 3+ years? That will be the key question especially as he pretty much won on the back of just 70000 votes last time. I don't foresee stoking more anger and vitriol as making his base more likely to go to vote than Dems, if anything it could have an opposite effect. He has now had a few chances to get on top of crisis situations that may have earned him the favourability of the electorate but he sees stoking his base as more important than winning unsure independents. So where does he go from here? What is his plan?
- Klobuchar is pretty much now at 0% chance to get the VP nod from Biden. I think Harris will probably firm into a strong favourite following this.
- I genuinely have no idea what Trump's campaign plan is. We saw him try the immigration thing in 2018 and that fall on its arse. He was going to be able to run on the economy pre C-19, how it will look in a few months is anything but certain though. Without the economy, where has he gained votes in the last 3+ years? That will be the key question especially as he pretty much won on the back of just 70000 votes last time. I don't foresee stoking more anger and vitriol as making his base more likely to go to vote than Dems, if anything it could have an opposite effect. He has now had a few chances to get on top of crisis situations that may have earned him the favourability of the electorate but he sees stoking his base as more important than winning unsure independents. So where does he go from here? What is his plan?
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disagree with this tbhwardyb1 wrote:I don't foresee [Trump] stoking more anger and vitriol as making his base more likely to go to vote than Dems, if anything it could have an opposite effect
the dems are shooting their feet, and the Rs have a national broadcasting conglomerate
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I can help you with those questonswardyb1 wrote:A few election things that to come out of this:
- Klobuchar is pretty much now at 0% chance to get the VP nod from Biden. I think Harris will probably firm into a strong favourite following this.
- I genuinely have no idea what Trump's campaign plan is. We saw him try the immigration thing in 2018 and that fall on its arse. He was going to be able to run on the economy pre C-19, how it will look in a few months is anything but certain though. Without the economy, where has he gained votes in the last 3+ years? That will be the key question especially as he pretty much won on the back of just 70000 votes last time. I don't foresee stoking more anger and vitriol as making his base more likely to go to vote than Dems, if anything it could have an opposite effect. He has now had a few chances to get on top of crisis situations that may have earned him the favourability of the electorate but he sees stoking his base as more important than winning unsure independents. So where does he go from here? What is his plan?
Trump will attack Biden on every bad policy he supported, and he will quote him on every gaf he made (100z)- Not sure if that will make Trump good though
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In a world that is all about Black or White (literally) anything can happen.
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Very possible. Still not sure though where he has gained new voters though.deleted_user wrote:disagree with this tbhwardyb1 wrote:I don't foresee [Trump] stoking more anger and vitriol as making his base more likely to go to vote than Dems, if anything it could have an opposite effect
the dems are shooting their feet, and the Rs have a national broadcasting conglomerate
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I think attacking policy would be a bad option for Trump. However the use of disinformation will obviously be a strong tool, because they won't attack the truth of the policy whatsoever.iwillspankyou wrote:I can help you with those questonswardyb1 wrote:A few election things that to come out of this:
- Klobuchar is pretty much now at 0% chance to get the VP nod from Biden. I think Harris will probably firm into a strong favourite following this.
- I genuinely have no idea what Trump's campaign plan is. We saw him try the immigration thing in 2018 and that fall on its arse. He was going to be able to run on the economy pre C-19, how it will look in a few months is anything but certain though. Without the economy, where has he gained votes in the last 3+ years? That will be the key question especially as he pretty much won on the back of just 70000 votes last time. I don't foresee stoking more anger and vitriol as making his base more likely to go to vote than Dems, if anything it could have an opposite effect. He has now had a few chances to get on top of crisis situations that may have earned him the favourability of the electorate but he sees stoking his base as more important than winning unsure independents. So where does he go from here? What is his plan?
Trump will attack Biden on every bad policy he supported, and he will quote him on every gaf he made (100z)- Not sure if that will make Trump good though
He will also most definitely use gaffs and what not but I don't think that will really have any effect on the election unless it is extremely egregious, but that is unlikely imo.
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you are right to be suspicious of where Biden gets his votes from @wardyb1 because there is not much enthusiasm around his campaign. Not many young ppl will take the time to vote for Biden.
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Yeah I was talking about Trump.....iwillspankyou wrote:you are right to be suspicious of where Biden gets his votes from because there is not much enthusiasm around his campaign. Not many young ppl will take the time to vote for Biden.
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same diffwardyb1 wrote:Yeah I was talking about Trump.....iwillspankyou wrote:you are right to be suspicious of where Biden gets his votes from because there is not much enthusiasm around his campaign. Not many young ppl will take the time to vote for Biden.
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They are not always one and the same, although there are many overlaps.iwillspankyou wrote:That is KKK, stupidoccamslightsaber wrote:Idk about what the KKK has to do with it, but the quote is historically associated with segregationists and police brutality from what I read.martinspjuth wrote:Okay, thanks for explaining @spanky4ever
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yeah, there are good ppl on both sides @occamslightsaber I got u
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