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n0el wrote:If an effect of the protests is 1% are looting, it doesn’t justify sending in the US military on domestic soil.
isn't that kinda the point of the national guard? to assist in cases of emergency like for example if police has not the capacity to keep up the law
idk why ppl just accept riots as part of protest. how is it acceptable if innocent ppl in these areas r assaulted or their businesses burned down? what kind of selective law enforcement that supposed to be....
The national guard isn’t the US military that is being threatened
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kaister wrote:@n0el local/state officials haven't gotten the cities under control for over a week now, there has been over $55 million in damages in Minnesota alone. Think we might be getting to the point where its justified
And? Does that honestly justify deploying the US military into our cities? How would you feel if there’s a marine convoy rolling down your block.
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n0el wrote:
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n0el wrote:If an effect of the protests is 1% are looting, it doesn’t justify sending in the US military on domestic soil.
isn't that kinda the point of the national guard? to assist in cases of emergency like for example if police has not the capacity to keep up the law
idk why ppl just accept riots as part of protest. how is it acceptable if innocent ppl in these areas r assaulted or their businesses burned down? what kind of selective law enforcement that supposed to be....
The national guard isn’t the US military that is being threatened
from my understanding the national guard is part of the us military, tho in general under control by states
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There is no chance in hell that Trump can call the military to kill their own citizens. This is not an ISSUE, and Trump is not a dictator (even if he would like to be).
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n0el wrote:
kaister wrote:@n0el local/state officials haven't gotten the cities under control for over a week now, there has been over $55 million in damages in Minnesota alone. Think we might be getting to the point where its justified
And? Does that honestly justify deploying the US military into our cities? How would you feel if there’s a marine convoy rolling down your block.
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Trump was then asked if he meant "firm hand as in China."

"When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength," Trump replied. "That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak...as being spit on by the rest of the world."

On June 4, 1989, after several weeks of pro-democracy and pro-reform demonstrations, Chinese troops entered Tiananmen Square in Beijing and fired on unarmed people. Hundreds, possibly thousands, were killed.
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The national guard isn’t the US military that is being threatened
from my understanding the national guard is part of the us military, tho in general under control by states
That isn't what they are advocating for though. Trump wants to send in the US military, as in Army, Marine Corps.
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princeofcarthage wrote:
n0el wrote:
kaister wrote:@n0el local/state officials haven't gotten the cities under control for over a week now, there has been over $55 million in damages in Minnesota alone. Think we might be getting to the point where its justified
And? Does that honestly justify deploying the US military into our cities? How would you feel if there’s a marine convoy rolling down your block.
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n0el wrote:
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That does seem to be a likely outcome
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Over my dead body
Why? I am not rioting or looting or doing anything wrong. Military is there to protect people and private property from few opportunistic people or group doing the harm. Why would I be scared of the army? If anything given the circumstances I would be pretty comfortable or safe if army shows up as police seem to be incompetent at the moment.
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I wouldn't be.
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I got that, I want to understand is why you won't feel safe if the army which is sworn to protect anything American, which is paid by you were to show up at your doorstep for your own protection?
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should not be triggered by ppl who do not know shit @n0el
Sending in the military, is fighting your own citizens, and that can only happen in a dictatorship. I am sure you are not there yet, but give Trump another 4 years, you might be.
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princeofcarthage wrote:I got that, I want to understand is why you won't feel safe if the army which is sworn to protect anything American, which is paid by you were to show up at your doorstep for your own protection?
Who do they protect when everyone is American? We pay police to protect us, they protect one interest and not everyone. Don't you see that the military is just a worse version of that? At least police are responsible to a local level, whereas the military is not.
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iNcog wrote:
princeofcarthage wrote:I got that, I want to understand is why you won't feel safe if the army which is sworn to protect anything American, which is paid by you were to show up at your doorstep for your own protection?
because they wouldn't be protecting you in that context, idiot
Okay, and what exactly would they be doing then?
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iNcog wrote: you're trolling or clueless. go back to China, they don't have democracy there
what does a democracy do for you, if noone is there to uphold its laws?
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iwillspankyou wrote:should not be triggered by ppl who do not know shit @n0el
Sending in the military, is fighting your own citizens, and that can only happen in a dictatorship. I am sure you are not there yet, but give Trump another 4 years, you might be.
thats why i have to unfortunately vote for Biden :mad:
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n0el wrote:
princeofcarthage wrote:I got that, I want to understand is why you won't feel safe if the army which is sworn to protect anything American, which is paid by you were to show up at your doorstep for your own protection?
Who do they protect when everyone is American? We pay police to protect us, they protect one interest and not everyone. Don't you see that the military is just a worse version of that? At least police are responsible to a local level, whereas the military is not.
Well, the military at least has some semblance of accountability. But the president can't be allowed to wield the military in that way
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