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knusch wrote: do u believe that trump caused or at least escalated police brutality with what he said in this video or do u deem it as racist?
Are you trying to imply that in that video, Trump doesn't explicitly endorse police brutality?
oh please he is talking his mind on how to deal with criminals in the context of gang violence. such made up outrage...
He says that after someone is restrained, cops should try to physically hurt them
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Criminals are often dangerous types. Restraining them sometimes requires using force and manhandling.
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oh please he is talking his mind on how to deal with criminals in the context of gang violence. such made up outrage...
He says that after someone is restrained, cops should try to physically hurt them
he doesn't
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CNN is the reason he's the President, so I guess?
Ear is implying that the media somehow work for Trump, when he won despite them trying to bury his bid for presidency.
If there's any way in which the MSM worked to elect Trump, that was by discrediting itself. That's a wholy different kind of argument than the media being somehow biased in Trump's favour. They were biased in Clinton's favour and they still are.
There's basically zero day without the MSM ridiculing something that Trump said or done. They're really helping him...
The way MSNbs was "favoring" Trump, was the way they were giving him publicity, hours every day. Bad publicity is also publicity. :devil:
He was a click bait, and they all put him on the front page, every day. I do not know how many billions that sums up to, but I can tell you this much; Trump got the publicity he needed, for free, to get him elected.
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knusch wrote:
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He says that after someone is restrained, cops should try to physically hurt them
he doesn't
He does
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@Snuden Sorry I forgot to tell you, you missed page 666
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CNN is the reason he's the President, so I guess?
Ear is implying that the media somehow work for Trump, when he won despite them trying to bury his bid for presidency.
If there's any way in which the MSM worked to elect Trump, that was by discrediting itself. That's a wholy different kind of argument than the media being somehow biased in Trump's favour. They were biased in Clinton's favour and they still are.
There's basically zero day without the MSM ridiculing something that Trump said or done. They're really helping him...
The MSM has one motive and only one motive, profit. Thereā€™s no question who they want in the headlines, Donald J Trump.
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iwillspankyou wrote:The way MSNbs was "favoring" Trump, was the way they were giving him publicity, hours every day. Bad publicity is also publicity. :devil:
He was a click bait, and they all put him on the front page, every day. I do not know how many billions that sums up to, but I can tell you this much; Trump got the publicity he needed, for free, to get him elected.
Yep, and he did his best to antagonise them, to make sure they can't ignore him. You could say it's a symbiotic relation. The media knows they get something to write everyday if they give Trump coverage and Trump knows he needs to say something colourful every day to stay in the news.
Even though they both hate each other.
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he doesn't
He does
"please don't be too nice; like if u put somebody in the car and u protecting their head, u can put the hand away" --> He says that after someone is restrained, cops should try to physically hurt them

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knusch wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:
knusch wrote: do u believe that trump caused or at least escalated police brutality with what he said in this video or do u deem it as racist?
Are you trying to imply that in that video, Trump doesn't explicitly endorse police brutality?
oh please he is talking his mind on how to deal with criminals in the context of gang violence. such made up outrage...
He took out a full page ad in the NYT calling for the execution of the Central Park 5.
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knusch wrote:
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He does
"please don't be too nice; like if u put somebody in the car and u protecting their head, u can put the hand away" = He says that after someone is restrained, cops should try to physically hurt them

agree too disagree
He's saying to not protect somebody's head, because he wants them to hit their head, because he wants the police to hurt them.
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We should not see this as something that happened just recently. This has been going on for a long time
You all should know it, - if you have no clue, then you should not debate it as you are some kind of expert @knush


There has been numerous of riots, about the same issue,
This video is 5 years old.
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Tbh, there is so many instances now, that nobody, in their right mind would disagree that the police violence in USA, is deeply problematic.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
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"please don't be too nice; like if u put somebody in the car and u protecting their head, u can put the hand away" = He says that after someone is restrained, cops should try to physically hurt them

agree too disagree
He's saying to not protect somebody's head, because he wants them to hit their head, because he wants the police to hurt them.
he isn't asking police to smash gangmembers heads against the car....he simply doesn't care about the wellbeing of criminals
i don't equate this to police brutality, you all really believe that this is what ppl are demonstrating about?^^
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knusch wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:
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He's saying to not protect somebody's head, because he wants them to hit their head, because he wants the police to hurt them.
he isn't asking police to smash gangmembers heads against the car....he simply doesn't care about the wellbeing of criminals
i don't equate this to police brutality, you all really believe that this is what ppl are demonstrating about?^^
What you're saying literally makes no sense
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iwillspankyou wrote:We should not see this as something that happened just recently. This has been going on for a long time
You all should know it, - if you have no clue, then you should not debate it as you are some kind of expert @knush
let's establish a committee to establish who has required expertise to take part of a conversation and put u in charge of it, sound good?

what a joke....
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geesus @fightinfrenchman , just give up this argument. Sometimes the vice person gives in, faced with never-ending stupid argumentations.
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Thereā€™s a real chance that Lindsey Graham aka Lady G might lose. Unreal
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knusch wrote:
iwillspankyou wrote:We should not see this as something that happened just recently. This has been going on for a long time
You all should know it, - if you have no clue, then you should not debate it as you are some kind of expert @knush
let's establish a committee to establish who has required expertise to take part of a conversation and put u in charge of it, sound good?

what a joke....
WhateveryoupreferIdonotcare :devil:
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knusch wrote:
iwillspankyou wrote:We should not see this as something that happened just recently. This has been going on for a long time
You all should know it, - if you have no clue, then you should not debate it as you are some kind of expert @knush
let's establish a committee to establish who has required expertise to take part of a conversation and put u in charge of it, sound good?

what a joke....
Why are you trying to censor her by criticizing her? Cancel culture run amok!
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n0el wrote:Thereā€™s a real chance that Lindsey Graham aka Lady G might lose. Unreal
Would taste like honney to me, getting that slick, Trump licker of our backs :hmm:
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n0el wrote:Thereā€™s a real chance that Lindsey Graham aka Lady G might lose. Unreal
I'm still skeptical, being tied 42-42 in a deeply red state isn't really all that amazing
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Oh shit, Biden might be in real trouble now. Trump is outflanking him on the left!
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iwillspankyou wrote:Tbh, there is so many instances now, that nobody, in their right mind would disagree that the police violence in USA, is deeply problematic.
Their whole society is more violent, not just the police. The police just reflects what's going on in their society. The football, gun ownership, the monster trucks shows, the aggressive education, the money-chasing mentality, the way they encourage their kids to be go-getters and step on anything and anyone to succeed. All these things are related and play a role in the kind of crime they have and how the police deals with it. It all happens in a context, in response to something that happens there. The police didn't become so aggressive out of the blue.
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Dolan wrote:
iwillspankyou wrote:Tbh, there is so many instances now, that nobody, in their right mind would disagree that the police violence in USA, is deeply problematic.
Their whole society is more violent, not just the police. The police just reflects what's going on in their society. The football, gun ownership, the monster trucks shows, the aggressive education, the money-chasing mentality, the way they encourage their kids to be go-getters and step on anything and anyone to succeed. All these things are related and play a role in the kind of crime they have and how the police deals with it. It all happens in a context, in response to something that happens there. The police didn't become so aggressive out of the blue.
Interesting points, I hope you are not right, a little bit, but not fully. I have always thought about Americans as very friendly. Never been there though, but this is how my friends, who have actually been there, portray them.
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