US Politics Megathread

[spanky4ever]

Biden plan to small?

And did it more for fussel then for green energy?

Dems has made some good regulations

Which ones were good in your opinion

I would say both of them.

[lejend]

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[iNcog]

well there was an attempted coup

[Dolan]

The only difference between a revolution and an insurrection is that one succeeds

[knusch]

well there was an attempted coup

u mean a failed attempt to stop one, right?

[iNcog]

well there was an attempted coup

u mean a failed attempt to stop one, right?

no?

sorry I woke up like 10 seconds ago, what do you mean? like the capitol police that just let everything happen or

[iNcog]

The fruit hangs low for MAGAtards.

[Dolan]

Biden is an old fox in politics, he knows what this kind of statement could lead to, so I guess that's the point. To instigate the MAGA crowd to become so radicalised that the moderate Repubs grow even more distant from them.
It's all about driving that wedge between them.

[harcha]

god bless rgb

[fightinfrenchman]

Biden is an old fox in politics, he knows what this kind of statement could lead to, so I guess that's the point. To instigate the MAGA crowd to become so radicalised that the moderate Repubs grow even more distant from them.

This is not instigating the MAGA crowd, it's reacting to things that they're already doing

[Dolan]

Biden is an old fox in politics, he knows what this kind of statement could lead to, so I guess that's the point. To instigate the MAGA crowd to become so radicalised that the moderate Repubs grow even more distant from them.

This is not instigating the MAGA crowd, it's reacting to things that they're already doing

Do you think a politician is not aware of what can telling a group of people that they're public enemy no. 1 do? Like what could happen next, why would you say that (even if it were true).
Nobody's that naive. Elections are approaching

[duckzilla]

They were telling this to themselves already anyway. At some point, you just gotta address realities. Biden can be assumed to want to have a legacy. He can only achieve a positive one if he manages to keep the US alive and finds himself on the right side of history by publicly addressing the obvious problems.

[Dolan]

That's what King George III did too. He went a bit further and declared those colonists from North America who were threatening the constitutional order traitors.
The American revolutionary war did not even have the majority's support, I think it was somewhere under 45%. They were split between different currents of opinion.
So the revolution against the British crown did not have political legitimacy, it was an illegal conspiracy against a lawful power.
Pretty much how today MAGAtards are conspiring against the 'legitimate democratic order'. And much like back then, the lawful power declares the rebels a threat to the political order.
Turns out that there's no way to ever change a political order through a majority, because then it would be indistinguishable from elections. And then it would just be subject to the same old filters, the majority's tendency for political inertia and keeping things the way they are. (Something akin to the social-desirability bias that is at work in polls, but applied to political action. People don't want to be seen as supporting destruction or as rebels, they want to be seen as agents of stability.)
Then revolutions have to be illegitimate by definition. Just like the Russian October revolution, just like the French revolution which was basically only Paris, just like the Romanian 1989 revolution which was a mixture of street revolt and palace coup but later polls showed that the majority of the population regretted communism, etc. Revolutions are always done by elites looking to replace other elites.
So I guess things are on schedule.

[Goodspeed]

Not your best post

[fightinfrenchman]

Biden is an old fox in politics, he knows what this kind of statement could lead to, so I guess that's the point. To instigate the MAGA crowd to become so radicalised that the moderate Repubs grow even more distant from them.

This is not instigating the MAGA crowd, it's reacting to things that they're already doing

Do you think a politician is not aware of what can telling a group of people that they're public enemy no. 1 do? Like what could happen next, why would you say that (even if it were true).
Nobody's that naive. Elections are approaching

What do you think will happen next as a result of this speech "instigating" extremists

[Dolan]

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Biden is an old fox in politics, he knows what this kind of statement could lead to, so I guess that's the point. To instigate the MAGA crowd to become so radicalised that the moderate Repubs grow even more distant from them.

This is not instigating the MAGA crowd, it's reacting to things that they're already doing

Do you think a politician is not aware of what can telling a group of people that they're public enemy no. 1 do? Like what could happen next, why would you say that (even if it were true).
Nobody's that naive. Elections are approaching

What do you think will happen next as a result of this speech "instigating" extremists

Idk, maybe something will happen, maybe nothing. What's clear is that Biden has been trying to drive a wedge between MAGApedes and Washington moderate Repubs who showed some willingness to work on bipartisan issues (the infrastructure bill). We'll see if his attempt at splitting the Repub party will have any effect.

[duckzilla]

lol

[Cometk]

incredible things are happening in china

[iNcog]

I don't think usa life expectancy is the bar here

[lejend]

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[spanky4ever]

Are you leaving the GOP? @lejend

[lejend]

Are you leaving the GOP? @lejend

I was never really in, I just used to think they were the lesser of two evils, but I stopped thinking that years ago

I don't really believe in politics anymore, I just follow it for fun and to keep track of things that might affect my life.