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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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I believe people (men or women) I know well and trust. For everyone else, I believe evidence.
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gibson wrote:
n0el wrote:You don’t believe women?
I don’t believe in labeling people as criminals without evidence. Do you believe that any man accused of rape should be labeled a rapist?
Of course not, but the same people saying that now were the people trying to hang Kavanaugh and Trump and others. It’s a completely disingenuous and a double standard.
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To expound a bit, I understand that since the beginning of human history man have sexually assaulted women, and even in 2020 it can be extremely difficult for women to come forward about sexual assault for multiple reasons, especially against a high profile male. That being said, I don’t believe in passing judgement in a situation in so far removed from without evidence. Unfortunately due to the nature of rape, short of video evidence, it is very difficult to prove unless reported almost immediately after the fact. Many rapists aren’t convicted because of this and it’s shitty, but it’s less shitty then convicting every single man accused of rape. I don’t have an opinion on the matter, if you ask me if joe Biden is a rapist I’d say I don’t know, because I don’t, and no one in this thread knows. The people in this thread saying he is are doing so because it fits their agenda, and vice versa.
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n0el wrote:
gibson wrote:
n0el wrote:You don’t believe women?
I don’t believe in labeling people as criminals without evidence. Do you believe that any man accused of rape should be labeled a rapist?
Of course not, but the same people saying that now were the people trying to hang Kavanaugh and Trump and others. It’s a completely disingenuous and a double standard.
I agree, people do what fits their political agenda. However there’s also a bit of a difference with at least Trump, cause he was accused by many many women and is on tape admitting to sexually abusing minors vs Biden who was accused by one woman and hasn’t been caught on tape admitting to sexually abusing women( to my knowledge).
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What about Brett Kavanaugh?
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n0el wrote:What about Brett Kavanaugh?
I recall quite a few progressives who tried to hang Kavanaugh as well. Now they are trying to hang Biden. Of course they are wrong in both cases without any evidence, but hey, at least they are consistently wrong, right?
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gibson wrote:
n0el wrote:You don’t believe women?
I don’t believe in labeling people as criminals without evidence. Do you believe that any man accused of rape should be labeled a rapist?
If someone comes forward about sexual assault are you going to tell them to get evidence or fuck off?
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occamslightsaber wrote:
n0el wrote:What about Brett Kavanaugh?
I recall quite a few progressives who tried to hang Kavanaugh as well. Now they are trying to hang Biden. Of course they are wrong in both cases without any evidence, but hey, at least they are consistently wrong, right?
Really? I see a lot of people who tried to hang Brett Kavanaugh defending Biden and deleting their twitter histories of their past comments.
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n0el wrote:What about Brett Kavanaugh?
Show some posts about what he did cuz I've never seen anything that would implicate him. Maybe I missed something in his hearings. Starting to believe he might of done something
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bittersalt123 wrote:
n0el wrote:What about Brett Kavanaugh?
Show some posts about what he did cuz I've never seen anything that would implicate him. Maybe I missed something in his hearings.
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n0el wrote:
occamslightsaber wrote:
n0el wrote:What about Brett Kavanaugh?
I recall quite a few progressives who tried to hang Kavanaugh as well. Now they are trying to hang Biden. Of course they are wrong in both cases without any evidence, but hey, at least they are consistently wrong, right?
Really? I see a lot of people who tried to hang Brett Kavanaugh defending Biden and deleting their twitter histories of their past comments.
I think those people (including Biden) have learned their lesson that it’s asinine to categorically believe any women who accuses another person of sexual misconduct. And yes, that makes them hypocrites and wrong about Kavanaugh. But I don’t see how those progressives calling Biden a rapist can claim moral high ground when they still think any women should be believed regardless of evidence.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
bittersalt123 wrote:
n0el wrote:What about Brett Kavanaugh?
Show some posts about what he did cuz I've never seen anything that would implicate him. Maybe I missed something in his hearings.
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Maybe he's a sociopath but his body language never made me think he did anything those years ago. She didn't even remember where it happened and claimed she only drank one beer. That must've been one really strong beer. Or she was drugged?

@fightinfrenchman Not saying Ford wasn't a victim but I don't know whether Kavanaugh did it did based on what she said.
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How do you know Biden did it?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:How do you know Biden did it?
Why do you even bother?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:How do you know Biden did it?
The details were extreme in Bidens case.
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@occamslightsaber I'm bored and I hate myself.

@bittersalt123 Do you think Trump is a rapist?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:@occamslightsaber I'm bored and I hate myself.

@bittersalt123 Do you think Trump is a rapist?
I now think he is actually. He was caught on tape talking about it also but back then the political climate was different but I shouldn't of voted for him I regret it.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-r ... d=66509771
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fightinfrenchman wrote:How do you know Biden did it?
Why is Biden’s case different from Kavanaugh’s?
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To be fair kavanaugh had like 3 women accusing him
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gibson wrote:To be fair kavanaugh had like 3 women accusing him
One accused him of showing her his penis at a party, not of rape. The other was not credible as far as I remember. So it’s almost identical to the Biden situation, one credible accuser.
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So it won't affect his ability to be elected into high office. Nishe.
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No comment on whether someone should be elected into/given an office based on whether they have been accused of sexual assault or not, BUT I think we all need a reminder that the real reason Kavanaugh should never have been given approved as the nominee is because he is a political hack. His confirmation was a political hack job. You can put progressives on the court, you can put conservatives on the court, but they should still be fair and independent and be fully qualified for the job.
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Just look at how he acts and dodges questions. This is a man about to be approved to the Supreme Court in The United States of America. The highest honour possible for a judge. Yet when asked question by Democrats he reverts to a 70IQ buffoon who can't follow simple questioning and becomes extremely dismissive. Anyone being put on that court should be treating both sides of the aisle with the utmost respect and due diligence to prove that they are worthy to sit at the table.
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So many scumbags in positions of power.
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bittersalt123 wrote:So many scumbags in positions of power.
Being a scumbag is essentially a prerequisite to being in power in this country.
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I’ve decided I’ll be voting for Ace Watkins this election

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