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Acting like the Republican party isn't built on racism is insane
That’s not what you said. You said people vote for republicans because they are racists. Those are two completely different things.
Yeah that is one of the main reasons they vote for Republicans, you should know this
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That’s not what you said. You said people vote for republicans because they are racists. Those are two completely different things.
Yeah that is one of the main reasons they vote for Republicans, you should know this
Is @evilcheadar a racist? He voted for trump right? What about @gustavusadolphus ?
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Yeah that is one of the main reasons they vote for Republicans, you should know this
Is @evilcheadar a racist? He voted for trump right? What about @gustavusadolphus ?
Yeah they're pretty racist ngl, trying to convince them to not vote for him again
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wardyb1 wrote:Also good to note that the house passed the D.C Statehood bill with a think only 1 Dem not voting for it and it is the most Trump - Dem seat in the House. Currently only 41 Dem Senators currently support this unfortunately. However if there were big wins in the Senate in November then it could very well become viable with the additional pressure to pass it.
Not sure why all Dem senators don’t back this. What’s the downside?
Honestly no idea. My only thought is for the Senators in much redder states don't want to commit until they know they have the numbers so it can't be used against them. But I don't think that applies to all the Dem Senators that haven't committed so far so I'm not sure. Some of them might just hold the idea that 100 is a nice number of senators, but yeah honestly no clue really.
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Snuden wrote:Those supporting Trump (or vote republican) are honestly dumb... they might be nice people, just dumb.
I think some people vote for Trump because of the type of work they do I think. There are reasons to vote for Trump but it's not based on morals.
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Snuden wrote:Those supporting Trump (or vote republican) are honestly dumb... they might be nice people, just dumb.
I think some people vote for Trump because of the type of work they do I think. There are reasons to vote for Trump but it's not based on morals.
Sounds like people vote for Trump purely for personal gains while shouting MAGA and speaking about patriotism.
Whatever is written above: this is no financial advice.

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Something related to cringing.
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Why, what's cringe worthy about that
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I'm guessing the fact that neither of them is named Bernie Sanders
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Please pivot to the GE
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Susan Collins continuing to look more and more like a clown after Kavanaugh's decision on the abortion case today. If she doesn't lose her seat in November, there is something seriously wrong.
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duckzilla wrote:
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Snuden wrote:Those supporting Trump (or vote republican) are honestly dumb... they might be nice people, just dumb.
I think some people vote for Trump because of the type of work they do I think. There are reasons to vote for Trump but it's not based on morals.
Sounds like people vote for Trump purely for personal gains while shouting MAGA and speaking about patriotism.
Its not personal gain. If you make under like 200k a year and vote republican you are voting against your overall financial interest.
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Sounds like people vote for Trump purely for personal gains while shouting MAGA and speaking about patriotism.
Its not personal gain. If you make under like 200k a year and vote republican you are voting against your overall financial interest.
While what you say may be the actual reality, people do not vote for realities but for what they imagine reality to be. I can vote for Trump, thoroughly believing that his policies lead to personal gains for me, and still get ripped off without realizing what happens.
Whatever is written above: this is no financial advice.

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Once you realise about 30% (made up stat, but it feels like this) of people have absolutely no idea how income tax is calculated you quickly realise how people vote for the people they do.
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Sounds like people vote for Trump purely for personal gains while shouting MAGA and speaking about patriotism.
Its not personal gain. If you make under like 200k a year and vote republican you are voting against your overall financial interest.
The problem for anyone who believes in small government these days is that so much of the population now benefits from government handouts.
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Its not personal gain. If you make under like 200k a year and vote republican you are voting against your overall financial interest.
The problem for anyone who believes in small government these days is that so much of the population now benefits from government handouts.
Except Republicans aren't even the "small government" party anymore no matter how much they would like to claim.
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The problem for anyone who believes in small government these days is that so much of the population now benefits from government handouts.
Except Republicans aren't even the "small government" party anymore no matter how much they would like to claim.
Bush certainly wasn't, and Trump isn't either, but there are people within the party who are.
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Except Republicans aren't even the "small government" party anymore no matter how much they would like to claim.
Bush certainly wasn't, and Trump isn't either, but there are people within the party who are.
True but the actions of the party is all that really matters. As a party they haven't acted like the small government party for a long, long time.
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duckzilla wrote:While what you say may be the actual reality, people do not vote for realities but for what they imagine reality to be. I can vote for Trump, thoroughly believing that his policies lead to personal gains for me, and still get ripped off without realizing what happens.
I think I could refine this idea:

A political candidate is a suitable target onto which voters externalise their political temperament and project whatever they expect from politics.

Which also implies there doesn't necessarily have to be any awareness of those projected hopes being either realistic or illusory.
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Bush certainly wasn't, and Trump isn't either, but there are people within the party who are.
True but the actions of the party is all that really matters. As a party they haven't acted like the small government party for a long, long time.
I agree this is important, but I think it also matters what your candidate believes in.
Is there a whip or anything equivalent in the US system?
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Rumors has it that GOP want to force Trump to drop out
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iwillspankyou wrote:Rumors has it that GOP want to force Trump to drop out
GOP is the republican party for any others who didn't know.
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iwillspankyou wrote:Rumors has it that GOP want to force Trump to drop out
I'll believe it when I see it. They literally had the opportunity to do this just a few months ago lol
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