US Politics Megathread

[fightinfrenchman]

Republicans are outflanking Democrats on the left

[duckzilla]

Trump is outflanking Republicans on the far-right

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Also note, that this does not look like the classic American bald eagle. Looking to the right further symbolizes the preference for war and violence over peace (in the American context).

[deleted_user]

It's also a previously existing stock image and wasn't commissioned.

The eagle is in tons of designs: https://images.app.goo.gl/V9zmJdCG6Fn71ihF8

Imo why grasp at straws when there is all sorts of concrete evidence Trump is a bad president and bad person.

[fightinfrenchman]

It's also a previously existing stock image and wasn't commissioned.

The eagle is in tons of designs: https://images.app.goo.gl/V9zmJdCG6Fn71ihF8

Imo why grasp at straws when there is all sorts of concrete evidence Trump is a bad president and bad person.

Because people still say shit like Trump isn't racist when he and his campaign use all these obvious dogwhistles

[duckzilla]

Nothing wrong with putting eagles on top of circles in general.
However, firstly, all eagle designs in your link have an actual bald eagle which is at least very difficult to identify in the Trump store case. Secondly, your pictures correctly show eagles with an olive branch and arrows. Thirdly, the resting posture looks highly un-American to me, since eagles usually fly to express freedom in American symbolism (I could be wrong here).

To me, this picture does not show an American eagle. It looks specifically like an Imperial Eagle looking to East to represent war and conquest of Lebensraum. It could easily be used in The Man In The High Castle.

[fightinfrenchman]

Lmao this is not what I thought Ryan Grim looked like

[princeofcarthage]

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

[Snuden]

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

[Snuden]

Republicans are outflanking Democrats on the left

At first I read the tweet as if it was from Heather Locklair.

Ngl... hnnnngggfff

[Snuden]

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

[princeofcarthage]

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

[fightinfrenchman]

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Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

[princeofcarthage]

Show hidden quotes

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

[fightinfrenchman]

Show hidden quotes

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

You said the crisis is largely manufactured, and the crisis is the virus, so

[princeofcarthage]

Show hidden quotes

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

You said the crisis is largely manufactured, and the crisis is the virus, so

Effects of lockdown is a crisis too, lockdown itself has turned into crisis. Sure virus is too but lockdown is greater.

[fightinfrenchman]

Show hidden quotes

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

You said the crisis is largely manufactured, and the crisis is the virus, so

Effects of lockdown is a crisis too, lockdown itself has turned into crisis. Sure virus is too but lockdown is greater.

It would be a lot easier to deal with the lockdowns if we dealt with the virus, becase then there wouldn't be lockdowns

[princeofcarthage]

Show hidden quotes

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

You said the crisis is largely manufactured, and the crisis is the virus, so

Effects of lockdown is a crisis too, lockdown itself has turned into crisis. Sure virus is too but lockdown is greater.

It would be a lot easier to deal with the lockdowns if we dealt with the virus, becase then there wouldn't be lockdowns

There is virus and there is no lockdown in sweden

[fightinfrenchman]

Show hidden quotes

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

You said the crisis is largely manufactured, and the crisis is the virus, so

Effects of lockdown is a crisis too, lockdown itself has turned into crisis. Sure virus is too but lockdown is greater.

It would be a lot easier to deal with the lockdowns if we dealt with the virus, becase then there wouldn't be lockdowns

There is virus and there is no lockdown in sweden

I'm more concerned about the virus because it could kill people I care about, rather than the "lockdown" which doesn't exist right now

[princeofcarthage]

Show hidden quotes

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

You said the crisis is largely manufactured, and the crisis is the virus, so

Effects of lockdown is a crisis too, lockdown itself has turned into crisis. Sure virus is too but lockdown is greater.

It would be a lot easier to deal with the lockdowns if we dealt with the virus, becase then there wouldn't be lockdowns

There is virus and there is no lockdown in sweden

I'm more concerned about the virus because it could kill people I care about, rather than the "lockdown" which doesn't exist right now

If you think lockdown can't kill people you care about you are wrongly informed. 5 years, 10 years down the line when there will be research in hindsight you would realize ultimately lockdown resulted in more suffering than saving.

[fightinfrenchman]

Show hidden quotes

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

You said the crisis is largely manufactured, and the crisis is the virus, so

Effects of lockdown is a crisis too, lockdown itself has turned into crisis. Sure virus is too but lockdown is greater.

It would be a lot easier to deal with the lockdowns if we dealt with the virus, becase then there wouldn't be lockdowns

There is virus and there is no lockdown in sweden

I'm more concerned about the virus because it could kill people I care about, rather than the "lockdown" which doesn't exist right now

If you think lockdown can't kill people you care about you are wrongly informed. 5 years, 10 years down the line when there will be research in hindsight you would realize ultimately lockdown resulted in more suffering than saving.

Can you explain what the "lockdown" I'm currently under means?

[princeofcarthage]

Show hidden quotes

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

You said the crisis is largely manufactured, and the crisis is the virus, so

Effects of lockdown is a crisis too, lockdown itself has turned into crisis. Sure virus is too but lockdown is greater.

It would be a lot easier to deal with the lockdowns if we dealt with the virus, becase then there wouldn't be lockdowns

There is virus and there is no lockdown in sweden

I'm more concerned about the virus because it could kill people I care about, rather than the "lockdown" which doesn't exist right now

If you think lockdown can't kill people you care about you are wrongly informed. 5 years, 10 years down the line when there will be research in hindsight you would realize ultimately lockdown resulted in more suffering than saving.

Can you explain what the "lockdown" I'm currently under means?

Well just cuz lockdown is lifted in US doesn't mean its not in other parts of the world. Also regardless of whether official lockdown exists or not can you move as freely compared to say pre-January 2020?

[fightinfrenchman]

Show hidden quotes

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

You said the crisis is largely manufactured, and the crisis is the virus, so

Effects of lockdown is a crisis too, lockdown itself has turned into crisis. Sure virus is too but lockdown is greater.

It would be a lot easier to deal with the lockdowns if we dealt with the virus, becase then there wouldn't be lockdowns

There is virus and there is no lockdown in sweden

I'm more concerned about the virus because it could kill people I care about, rather than the "lockdown" which doesn't exist right now

If you think lockdown can't kill people you care about you are wrongly informed. 5 years, 10 years down the line when there will be research in hindsight you would realize ultimately lockdown resulted in more suffering than saving.

Can you explain what the "lockdown" I'm currently under means?

Well just cuz lockdown is lifted in US doesn't mean its not in other parts of the world. Also regardless of whether official lockdown exists or not can you move as freely compared to say pre-January 2020?

I can't go to Europe because they won't have me, because of the virus. And it's a little harder to get restaurant reservations because of limited capacity, but I'm not trying to do that, because of the virus

[princeofcarthage]

Show hidden quotes

Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

You said the crisis is largely manufactured, and the crisis is the virus, so

Effects of lockdown is a crisis too, lockdown itself has turned into crisis. Sure virus is too but lockdown is greater.

It would be a lot easier to deal with the lockdowns if we dealt with the virus, becase then there wouldn't be lockdowns

There is virus and there is no lockdown in sweden

I'm more concerned about the virus because it could kill people I care about, rather than the "lockdown" which doesn't exist right now

If you think lockdown can't kill people you care about you are wrongly informed. 5 years, 10 years down the line when there will be research in hindsight you would realize ultimately lockdown resulted in more suffering than saving.

Can you explain what the "lockdown" I'm currently under means?

Well just cuz lockdown is lifted in US doesn't mean its not in other parts of the world. Also regardless of whether official lockdown exists or not can you move as freely compared to say pre-January 2020?

I can't go to Europe because they won't have me, because of the virus. And it's a little harder to get restaurant reservations because of limited capacity, but I'm not trying to do that, because of the virus

Well no it is because of the lockdown, for ex in sweden you can still go to a nice restaurant.

[Dolan]

Trump is outflanking Republicans on the far-right

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Also note, that this does not look like the classic American bald eagle. Looking to the right further symbolizes the preference for war and violence over peace (in the American context).

Eagle of Zeus, standing on a thunderbolt, depicted on ancient Greece coins:

Eagle of Zeus

Various emblems of Roman legions, featuring the aquila (eagle) perched on top of a trapezoidal base

Roman aquila used on various military standards and insignia, vexillum, etc

Vexilloid of the Roman empire (modern reconstruction):


There's a long tradition in European heraldry to use the aquila as a symbol, which was meant to claim you're a direct heir of Roman fame and thus have a legitimate claim of dominion over your kingdom. Like the Reichsadler, the double-headed eagle which was used a lot in the insignia of Germanic rulers. (Ironically, Germanics were never part of the Roman empire, but later they tried to reclaim its fame by building the Holy Roman Empire.)

Flag of the New York American colony adopted in 1778

Early NY colony flag

The Nazis claimed they were building the Third Reich, a successor to the First Reich (Holy Roman Empire) and the Second Reich (German Empire 1871-1917).
It made sense that they adopted the eagle as their Parteiadler, which had been featured in Germanic heraldry for centuries and to which they added their own swastika logo, borrowed from Hindu/Buddhist culture.

NSDAP Parteiadler

Current military insignia of the US navy:

US navy emblem

US biker culture eagle insignia:

Biker eagle

The first American colonies used Roman symbols a lot in their flags and they also claimed they were building a political system that would be more similar to the Roman republic, rather than to European political systems, which they perceived to be plagued by the tyranny of majority. James Madison made this point explicitly in the Federalist papers (number 10), which is also the source of this completely idiotic claim that the US "is not a democracy, but a republic".

What does all this mean? That Romans and Americans are a bunch of nazis, and Nazis were just a bunch of fgts cosplaying as Romans.

It's all just a historical dress rehearsal.

[fightinfrenchman]

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Trump isn't the president American deserves, its the president America needs.

Lol.

I can’t leave it be...

In time of crisis a great leader UNITE his people, he lead by example and he do whatever it takes to bring out the best in his people.

Donald Trump does absolutely nothing of the above. He went to play golf.

Crisis is largely manufactured one, in a sense that it was result of pure chaos. Sure Trump could've handled it better, can still do, but at least he has done some massive changes on global scale which needed to be done but no one had the nerve to.

Who do you think "manufactured" the virus

I never said the virus was manufactured, learn to read.

You said the crisis is largely manufactured, and the crisis is the virus, so

Effects of lockdown is a crisis too, lockdown itself has turned into crisis. Sure virus is too but lockdown is greater.

It would be a lot easier to deal with the lockdowns if we dealt with the virus, becase then there wouldn't be lockdowns

There is virus and there is no lockdown in sweden

I'm more concerned about the virus because it could kill people I care about, rather than the "lockdown" which doesn't exist right now

If you think lockdown can't kill people you care about you are wrongly informed. 5 years, 10 years down the line when there will be research in hindsight you would realize ultimately lockdown resulted in more suffering than saving.

Can you explain what the "lockdown" I'm currently under means?

Well just cuz lockdown is lifted in US doesn't mean its not in other parts of the world. Also regardless of whether official lockdown exists or not can you move as freely compared to say pre-January 2020?

I can't go to Europe because they won't have me, because of the virus. And it's a little harder to get restaurant reservations because of limited capacity, but I'm not trying to do that, because of the virus

Well no it is because of the lockdown, for ex in sweden you can still go to a nice restaurant.

I can't go to a nice restaurant in the EU because I can't go to the EU, because of the virus.