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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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Dolan wrote:You can look at the bright side: if Trump gets impeached, Pence becomes president.
then we get to live in Theocracy! #hype
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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I hope Gabbard runs third-party, or that other guy who was threatening to. (I think he was the Starbucks CEO?) There are like three states that Trump lost in 2016 just because of Mr. Aleppo and Egg McMuffin, and it would be funny to see the same thing happen to Warren.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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Goodspeed wrote:It invalidates your election practically.......
How does a third party spoiler "invalidate" an election
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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If they're installed and supported by a foreign power in order to swing the election one way? I feel like that's obvious.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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Goodspeed wrote:If they're installed and supported by a foreign power in order to swing the election one way? I feel like that's obvious.
I mean, what do you mean by "invalidate" an election? There's no legal mechanism for doing that.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:
Goodspeed wrote:If they're installed and supported by a foreign power in order to swing the election one way? I feel like that's obvious.
I mean, what do you mean by "invalidate" an election? There's no legal mechanism for doing that.
Not necessarily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974_and_ ... _Hampshire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Nort ... l_election
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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@Amsel_ As far as I know that's not possible with a presidential election
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:
Goodspeed wrote:If they're installed and supported by a foreign power in order to swing the election one way? I feel like that's obvious.
I mean, what do you mean by "invalidate" an election? There's no legal mechanism for doing that.
fightinfrenchman wrote:That's why I asked practically, instead of legally
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:@Amsel_ As far as I know that's not possible with a presidential election
"The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States." I could see them being able to hold a reelection, but it would have to be nationwide. I suppose if a state were able to act quickly enough, according to its constitution, it could organize a run-off, special election, whatever you want to call it. Louisiana, for example, chooses its Senator after the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November. As to whether a state could get away with that? I presume the Supreme Court would be split on partisan lines.

But I have to presume the guy with the most votes would just end up winning. We've had elections with very sketchy results in the past, and the loser chose not to contest the results because they didn't want all the drama.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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Goodspeed wrote:The letter was more to show that Trump has no idea what he's doing and saying his decisions are based on a line of reasoning that has any basis in reality or makes any diplomatic sense is probably giving him too much credit already. Did you read it? It could've been written by a 5 year old.
Dolan wrote:Of course I read it. It's his idea of acting like a 19th century president. He doesn't give a shit about "expertise" and PhDs. He acts like a general and he talks using power language. It's pure politics, really. Except the style is from another epoch. And that's the idea.
Goodspeed wrote:I highly doubt that it's just politics, I think he's just not a very sophisticated person and that letter represents the extent of his mental capacity.
Agree to disagree on that one I guess.
Dolan's appraisal is quite accurate.

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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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Would you like to see debates between party leaders in the house and senate, or is that basically just giving up on at least pretending that politics isn't party vs party?
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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I would, but to be honest, I think most people are tuned out anyways, so I am not sure what good it would do.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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n0el wrote:I would, but to be honest, I think most people are tuned out anyways, so I am not sure what good it would do.
How do you feel about Gabbard?
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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about Gabbard @fightinfrenchman I just saw that Hillary Clinton has put out a smear on Tulsi Gabbard, calling her a Russian, and Assad ally. The stupidity of this Hillary, just has no end. Even CNN has called Clinton out for it, calling it a hit piece, that provides NO evidence, what so ever.
I guess that Clinton cannot forgive Gabbard, for leaving the DNC, while calling them out on the backstabbing they were doing to Sanders, freaking 4 years ago.

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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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@spanky4ever Well if CNN is evil and corrupt and they called it a hit piece, doesn't that make it true? :hmm:

Also lol @ Sanders here

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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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It was so stupid, and without any evidence, that even the CNN called Clinton out for it. How about that? @fightinfrenchman
Must be really far out there, somewhere in space ;)
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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I thought they were the Clinton News Network, why would they call her out
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:
n0el wrote:I would, but to be honest, I think most people are tuned out anyways, so I am not sure what good it would do.
How do you feel about Gabbard?
I don’t care for her as a candidate but I think she’s got legitimate critiques of the DNC process. Also Crooked H needs to turn off her twitter account until after the election.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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This might tempt me to support Buttigieg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -rare-move
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:This might tempt me to support Buttigieg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -rare-move
how am I not surprised (at all) - guess your mantra is blue, no matter who, as long as it is not Bernie :|

But thx for the info, it fits perfectly to my script for Buttigieg
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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@spanky4ever Bernie is included in "vote blue no matter who"
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:@spanky4ever Bernie is included in "vote blue no matter who"
read all of my post ;)
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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If Zuckerberg likes him than Pete has a better chance of winning
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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fightinfrenchman wrote:If Zuckerberg likes him than Pete has a better chance of winning
or, you can put it like this; If zuckenberg likes him, then there is a greater risk for him being corrupt :mad:
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Re: 2020 Democratic Primary

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iwillspankyou wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:If Zuckerberg likes him than Pete has a better chance of winning
or, you can put it like this; If zuckenberg likes him, then there is a greater risk for him being corrupt :mad:
Probably also true but I'm more concerned about Facebook supporting Trump
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