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Joe "I like kids more than people" Biden is a pedophile. Bet he owns a pizza chain as well!
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Goodspeed wrote:

n0el wrote:... but more importantly, he has the ability to energize the base and that is the only thing that matters.

The base is already energized though, right? By Trump

Not necessarily. If you look at the 2018 elections, it is clear to see that in races where the Republican candidate endorsed Trump (nearly all), the turnout for the progressive candidate was higher than the centrist.

Biden does have a #metoo problem. Once people start talking about that, his numbers will drop. Same with his voting record. Right now he’s associated with Obama on policies, but his record is not Obama, it is much worse.

I'm sure Biden's numbers will go down when he's actually running, but there's nothing to suggest that Bernie could beat him still.

fightinfrenchman wrote:I'm sure Biden's numbers will go down when he's actually running, but there's nothing to suggest that Bernie could beat him still.

I think you are very wrong, but you seem to prefer him over Sanders. Why? What is his politics, and what about it do you like?

And how about the other "top" candidates;
Just reading from CNBC that a lot of top Democrats are talking with Wallstreet, wanting them to fund them. I am talking about Cory Boker, Camala Harris and Kirsten Gillibrand, - there are others as well (say CNBC). I would think they will be called out for their association to Big Corp, and Wallstreet bonds.
I do not think candidates who are funded in this manner, have any hopes for getting elected.

POLITICS
Wall Street executives are hearing from Cory Booker, Kamala Harris and other Democrats as they gauge interest in possible 2020 presidential campaigns
Wall Street executives have heard from several potential 2020 Democratic candidates for president, including Sens. Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, as recently as last month.
Blackstone's Jonathan Gray, 32 Advisors' Robert Wolf, and Centerbridge Partners' Mark Gallogly are just a few of the Democratic financiers who have been engaging with possible candidates for president.
The revelation of communication between Wall Street donors and possible Democratic candidates threatens to exacerbate tension between liberal and moderate Democratic voters.
Brian Schwartz | @schwartzbCNBC
Published 11:15 AM ET Tue, 8 Jan 2019 Updated 12:21 PM ET Tue, 8 Jan 2019
CNBC.com

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-NY, is reaching out to Wall Street executives to gauge potential support if she were to run for president in 2020, CNBC has learned.

Gillibrand has personally been working the phones and calling senior executives at Wall Street firms in recent weeks to see whether they would back her campaign if she jumps into the race, according to two senior business leaders who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Donors in the financial community helped back Gillibrand's successful re-election bid last year. Her effort to connect with business leaders this time comes as she contemplates entering what will likely be an expensive and protracted Democratic primary

quoted from CNBC 4 Jan 2019

Go figure

I think it's good to take money from Wall Street

fightinfrenchman wrote:I think it's good to take money from Wall Street

In case you are not just trolling, I would ask you why is that good?
About Bidens politics, you probably don't know yet, and neither do I. But if you do. please give some info about it.

He thinks its good to win, regardless of how you get there.

iwillspankyou wrote:

fightinfrenchman wrote:I think it's good to take money from Wall Street

In case you are not just trolling, I would ask you why is that good?
About Bidens politics, you probably don't know yet, and neither do I. But if you do. please give some info about it.

It costs money to campaign. Also my preference for Biden over Bernie is that I think Biden is more electable, but still I'd prefer someone else like Beto or Any Klobuchar

Guess you know that ppl will fund a candidate if they talk about politics ppl actually want @fightinfrenshman
Remember Sanders? Think it was about 300 million he raised from small donations mostly - and average 27 dollars
But we all know how it is, what money in politics is doing.

https://youtu.be/8VHwxT2H6Lw

about Beto, he was kind of popular, saying he did not take corp donations, and he was talking about a public funded healthcare system for all. But then he suddenly had a change of heart, and started to take money from fossil fuel industry, and also stopped talking about single-payer healthcare. I think Beto will have a hard time defending this sudden change of heart. It could well be that Beto and Sanders are the last two man standing in the primaries (think they will both run) - so we shall see

You mention Amy Klobuchar, but I have to tell you, she is very in the shadow, but I had a look at her policies, and at first glance, they seem pretty good, but on second glance she is defending Obama care, wanting to improve it, Clinton Way! I think that is the wrong "medicine" right now.
But tbh I just took a look into her policies, after you mentioned her. Would think most USA voters do not know her very well if they know her at all

I also think she would be good because we should have a woman as president.

@fightinfrenchman think policies are much more important than gender, race or both If she wins it should be on her merits and her policies, and not her gender. I am not sure, but I feel that if a female candidate should arise with the arguments that the majority of the ppl think is good/fair, I think she will win. Hell, even in India they had a female prime minister 40 years ago
Not saying its not hard to get power when you're a woman. But, gender just doesn't cut it for me like Clinton style; "I'm with her"

rewinding:
You had a black person cos he was talking about Change, but nothing really changed, did it?
Then, out of despair you elected a Businessperson, who def was not part of the establishment, that was even worse
Now you say, let's get a female/black person, or maybe both black and female, maybe that will work?
how about getting an old goat, with plenty of energy, that have had the same political stance for 4 decades, and has proven to be incorruptible? HOW ABOUT THEM APPLES

iwillspankyou wrote:@fightinfrenchman think policies are much more important than gender, race or both If she wins it should be on her merits and her policies, and not her gender. I am not sure, but I feel that if a female candidate should arise with the arguments that the majority of the ppl think is good/fair, I think she will win. Hell, even in India they had a female prime minister 40 years ago
Not saying its not hard to get power when you're a woman. But, gender just doesn't cut it for me like Clinton style; "I'm with her"

rewinding:
You had a black person cos he was talking about Change, but nothing really changed, did it?
Then, out of despair you elected a Businessperson, who def was not part of the establishment, that was even worse
Now you say, let's get a female/black person, or maybe both black and female, maybe that will work?
how about getting an old goat, with plenty of energy, that have had the same political stance for 4 decades, and has proven to be incorruptible? HOW ABOUT THEM APPLES

If your argument is that nothing changed under Obama I don't know what to say

what fundamental changes to US politics did Obama make? You tell me @fightinfrenhman

iwillspankyou wrote:what fundamental changes to US politics did Obama make? You tell me @fightinfrenhman

Obamacare

fightinfrenchman wrote:

iwillspankyou wrote:what fundamental changes to US politics did Obama make? You tell me @fightinfrenhman

Obamacare

that is a halfway house, making it more and more expensive to buy into it, and there is no cap on what insurance companies can charge and what medicine can cost. It has actually been the most important cause for the drug prices to skyrocket. A halfway medicare for all was chicken legislation. In Obamas first 2 years, he had full control in both chambers, but he did not implement a public healthcare system for all citizen. I would say Obama talked like velvet, but ruled like a Wall Street sellout:!:

I hope the USA finally embrases more left politics. When the rest of the world moves to the left, NL can top that and get even more communist. It's the future anyways.

I regret posting in this thread

momuuu wrote:I hope the USA finally embrases more left politics. When the rest of the world moves to the left, NL can top that and get even more communist. It's the future anyways.

Does the NL have a serious left party? GroenLinks is more associated with climate than leftist policies, D66 has a robot in charge, PvdA died, what's left? You need to start your own communist party to impress me.

Since when is jerom communist lol. Seriously or trolling? Have you read das kapital? (Serious questions btw)

Jermon has communist clan in aoe3, first serious step taken.
Edit: im in that clan too

umeu wrote:Since when is jerom communist lol. Seriously or trolling? Have you read das kapital? (Serious questions btw)

Pretty much for as long as I know him he has been "left" on the political spectrum.

edeholland wrote:

umeu wrote:Since when is jerom communist lol. Seriously or trolling? Have you read das kapital? (Serious questions btw)

Pretty much for as long as I know him he has been "left" on the political spectrum.

no labels pls

they delaminate

Mr_Bramboy wrote:

momuuu wrote:I hope the USA finally embrases more left politics. When the rest of the world moves to the left, NL can top that and get even more communist. It's the future anyways.

Does the NL have a serious left party? GroenLinks is more associated with climate than leftist policies, D66 has a robot in charge, PvdA died, what's left? You need to start your own communist party to impress me.

GroenLinks is definitely left. Besides, actually dealing with climate change seems a leftist "policy" nowadays. What about SP? Did they die too? Haven't really been following national politics.
D66 is more moderate last I checked.