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how many shots of men performing fire suit stunts are there

The choreography is laughable

hot air does not do this to stone

This has been the best episode of this season so far by a lot. It's not hot air it's dragon fire noob.

Season 8 Episode 5: Crowd Simulator 2019

This show seems fun

While this episode suffers from the same terrible character development that the others have ( varys turned into an idiot, tyrion irrelevant, Dani over coming 7 seasons of character development to go from a normal person to the mad queen in an episode and a half, Jame also doing completely nonsensical things) I enjoyed that it went back to the classic GoT where terrible things happen on a large scale. The clegane bowl was nice, Arya going from a confident killer to realizing that in the grand scheme of things she isn't shit was nice. Quiburn dying was nice. The question remains will be it be Jon or Arya that kills Dani.

Is Peter Dinklage still in the show?

Just got around to watching the episode... Jesus Christ, I knew Drogon would have plot armour but that was beyond ridiculous. They spent all of season 7 and 8 up until this point, ass-pull, after ass-pull, just to de-power Dany and put Cersei in a strong position. And it was all completely and utterly meaningless. She may as well have had the same unstoppable horde and 3 dragons she ended season 6 with.
Exact same problem as episode three. There simply wasn't a battle. This time it's even worse because at least with episode 3 they made it clear beforehand that the white walkers were the ones with a huge advantage. Here they gave Cersei every advantage she could get, but Dragons turned back into unstoppable super-weapons instead of vulnerable jobbers. Seriously, there were like 200 of those ballistas... it took what, 3 of them to instakill an airborne dragon last time? Looks like there was some serious balance patching since last episode! This is not how you create tension. Golden Company - what was the point? Also those Dothraki coming out of nowhere as soon as the gate is busted down lol. I still wonder where they've been hiding.

More subversion for the sake of subversion.

On the bright side:
- Nice send-off for Arya all things considered (assuming that was a send-off, felt like one) - could've been so much worse - I was half expecting her to kill Cersei, Euron and The Mountain then smirk smugly at the camera based off what we've seen so far
- Good ending for Cleganebowl I guess, fire poetry and all that: if it had to happen, it should certainly end in them both dying - mindless revenge is not supposed to be positive character development! Some people are mad it wasn't much of a fight but tbh it never should've been an epic showdown.
- I kinda like Tyrion's arc here, if you can call it that (though he has indeed been dumb and useless for some time); despite his family/people being the bane of existence, he ultimately couldn't really rely on anyone else. Not quite sure how to put it, but him finding a happy place amongst people that finally accept him would not be in line with this story.
- Tyrion and Jaime was good. Probably one of the best scenes of the season (not saying much). Don't like what they did to Jaime though.
- Nice acting. Feels like a lot of the younger ones have improved.
- Zero Sansa or Bran scenes

And yeah it's very obvious what and who happens to Dany now.

Oh well. I think it's just fine making her go insane, but I'm not sure what significance the bells were supposed to have. Perhaps could've gone for a poignant "snap" moment with something a bit more to do with her past? Not completely terrible though, the shot of her eyeing the Red Keep, the kingdom she's wanted her whole life, but doesn't want her, etc. I don't mind it happening, could've been handled a bit better though - we see her questionable actions for a long time, but not so much her mental deterioration - that was a quite recent addition. The audience has clearly been supposed to question her burning ways for ages now (many seemed to have ignored this, though), so I wouldn't call this completely out of nowhere.

Anyway, I'm fanscinated to see how they'll deal with Drogon once uhhhh... the obvious happens...

Also Varys' motives being pure altruism just feels wrong, but that's nothing new.

random thoughts about the battle...

why didn't she attack from above last time?
why can't the scorpion men hit a single shot this time?
why is the command fire, and not loose or something like that?
since when did dragons become nuclear guided missiles?
why does daenaerys need an army again?
where did these dothraki come from? i thought they all became zombies?
Incest is bad for the brain...
how does grey worm suddenly have enough space to go all samurai with his spear...?
if a dragon can bring down huge fortified towers, why doesn't she just destroy the red keep instead of burn the city? I get that she's mad, but c'mon, she wasn't that mad yet. or that stupid...
how cute are jaime and cercei, aww...
I could've been a 100 years into a ck2 game by now :/
have you seen my wife? hmm, no? describe her maybe?
baryacue?
that's the valonqar prophecy? dunno if lame or if genius... hmm, i think it's good, but is it enough?
no baryacue tonight... meat's off the menu, boys.

iwillspankyou wrote:last episode, Brianna was crying for her loved one, after making love for the first time. Our hero thus far, and the one we want to be a ruler, suddenly has these flaws, And then the real Hero surface. I mean, I will still watch it, but its starting to be kind of stupid.

i don't think it was stupid that she cried for him. I agree that in the show their relationship isn't particularly well developed, but it's not like they met that night and had a one night stand. They've been friends, and more than that for a long time. And it was clear that both had deep feelings and respect for each other. It's not just random that she cried. Though I guess this is more obvious if you've read the books.

Honestly, the reunion of two murdering, incestuous twins was the highlight of the season for me. The Jaimie regression would have been very real if you omit every single Bronn scene this season, who was shoehorned in only because viewers think he's cool and funny.

the show has gone so far off the rails its basically a comedy now, which is nice

Out of this entire season, somehow the funniest thing of all for me is Qyburn's unwavering loyalty. To the absolute bitter end, walls crumbling around him and he still wants to escort Cersei to safety. Since when did this dude have such steadfast moral integrity, lol.

epic episode .

The only good thing I have to say after last episode, is that I will not miss the show very much when its over^^ Guess thats fine.

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if only AeJon would have banged out his aunt.

This episode was so bad it caused global equity markets to fall...

Kawapasaka wrote:Out of this entire season, somehow the funniest thing of all for me is Qyburn's unwavering loyalty. To the absolute bitter end, walls crumbling around him and he still wants to escort Cersei to safety. Since when did this dude have such steadfast moral integrity, lol.

i didnt mind that, his loyalty wasn't abstract and moral. he wasn't loyal to the crown or the realm, like varys, he was loyal to cercei. She raised him up after he had lost everything, so that kind of very personal loyalty makes sense, imo. she chose to leave with him, i think that if she hadn't then he wouldve probably left.

Will Arya kill daeny in ep6???I think yes!

Mosx wrote:Will Arya kill daeny in ep6???I think yes!

Yes she will

"I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him."

Well that would certainly be stupid. Her kill list is just finished, she doesn't need to kill anyone anymore. In this episode, she saw the tragedy and suffering that comes with death and how it affects people. If she starts killing Dany now, her arc in this episode would be for nothing. Jon killing Dany would be a much more fitting end. "Love is the death of duty, and duty is the death of love."

I agree it would be terrible for her character, which is why I think it will happen based on how this season has gone so far.

The red woman reappears and brings Jaime Lannister back to life. He kills Dany, fulfilling his destiny to become the Queenslayer. Jon Snow ascends the Iron Throne and turns the Seven Kingdoms into a constitutional democracy.

gibson wrote:I agree it would be terrible for her character, which is why I think it will happen based on how this season has gone so far.

I think it will be a caesar moment. Tyrion, jon, arya, they'llall be coming for her. Grey worm will die, i guess. John being a targaryen will inherit the dragon.

Actually, tyrion will probably get roasted.