COVID-19 / Coronavirus Outbreak

[Jotunir]

@Jotunir wrong on every account mate

Please explain, why do you think that?

[duckzilla]

People like Jotunir are funny. Of course natural factors can lead to global warming. Nobody would deny that. But the point is that in the case of the current observable and further predicted climate change all of these theories based on natural factors having a large impact on it have been proven wrong consistently in a manifold of studies over multiple decades. You are riding a dead horse. It died in the 70s.

Admittedly, I'm not even sure whether this horse was even alive in the 70s. There are articles like this from 1912, which clearly link the burning of fossil fuels (coal in this case) to warming weather. Arguing along the lines of Jotunir is nothing but believing in a geocentric universe even after Copernicus proved the heliocentric with a proper mathematical model. It just attests gross level of ignorance, likely to be shaped by internalized belief systems.

[Goodspeed]

... and the consumption of biased (social) media

[harcha]

@Jotunir wrong on every account mate

Please explain, why do you think that?

A quick googling of each of your points reveals that you're full of shit, as expected.

[fightinfrenchman]

This one phenomenon isn't exclusively American. It seems that there is a significant group of people that can't understand the science behind something like vaccines (or global warming for example) and are unwilling to simply trust the authority on the matter.

Or perhaps we can understand the sience behind them too well...
No one denies global warming exists

This is such a weird thing to say. People claim this all the time

[RefluxSemantic]

The psychology of this sort of behaviour is strange to me. I did a masters in physics and I feel like very few of my friends actually have the capacity to complete a degree like that. Yet, when talking to some professors I became extremely aware of how their intelligence absolutely dwarfed mine. And then you realize that scientific consensus is basically the result of these unimaginably smart people collectively agreeing on something that is their field of expertise. So scientific consensus on any specific subject is basically the result of the very smartest people on earth dedicating their lifes to some subject and then collaborating on that one subject until they reach consensus. And then some dipshit like jotunir comes along and he believes his shitty attempt at doing his own research actually holds any form of weight at all.

[princeofcarthage]

If you dedicate enough time and resources anyone can learn anything. The amount of time taken differs but calling your friends dumb is quite ignorant and egoistic.

[RefluxSemantic]

Compared to my professors my friends are absolute morons

[princeofcarthage]

Why and since when physics is the baseline for human intelligence? How does mastery of the subject you spent your life dedicating to determines one's intelligence? Aren't you confusing well educated with intelligence and at the same time comparing apples to oranges? *Not saying anything specifically about your professors, that's irrelevant to the discussion.

[Jotunir]

People like Jotunir are funny. Of course natural factors can lead to global warming. Nobody would deny that. But the point is that in the case of the current observable and further predicted climate change all of these theories based on natural factors having a large impact on it have been proven wrong consistently in a manifold of studies over multiple decades. You are riding a dead horse. It died in the 70s.

Admittedly, I'm not even sure whether this horse was even alive in the 70s. There are articles like this from 1912, which clearly link the burning of fossil fuels (coal in this case) to warming weather. Arguing along the lines of Jotunir is nothing but believing in a geocentric universe even after Copernicus proved the heliocentric with a proper mathematical model. It just attests gross level of ignorance, likely to be shaped by internalized belief systems.

For the record, I don't believe in a geocentric universe, that's a lie.

[callentournies]

Damn ur fuckin smart

[Jotunir]

Damn ur fuckin smart

Yes I am, but that's is not the subject of this thread.

[gibson]

If you dedicate enough time and resources anyone can learn anything.

That is untrue

[fightinfrenchman]

"The virus" really just isn't even on my mind anymore. I have a mask in my pocket at all times just for certain stores but I just don't really care about it and everyone I know is fine. It feels good

[XeeleeFlower]

The new variant has me freaking out a little.

[fightinfrenchman]

The new variant has me freaking out a little.

The vaccines are effective. You will be fine, and in all likelihood even if the new variant is more dangerous, by the time it gets anywhere close to you you'll probably already be getting a booster ngl

[callentournies]

The new variant has me freaking out a little.

The vaccines are effective. You will be fine, and in all likelihood even if the new variant is more dangerous, by the time it gets anywhere close to you you'll probably already be getting a booster ngl

Effective at what?

[Goodspeed]

@fightinfrenchman You keep saying the virus is over etc. Do you ever travel? Can recommend

[duckzilla]

The new variant has my BNTX calls going through the roof

[fightinfrenchman]

@fightinfrenchman You keep saying the virus is over etc. Do you ever travel? Can recommend

I know if you're travelling internationally there are all these dumb things, but I'm saying there shouldn't be (once every country gets to a point where everyone who wants a vaccine can get one)

[fightinfrenchman]

The new variant has me freaking out a little.

The vaccines are effective. You will be fine, and in all likelihood even if the new variant is more dangerous, by the time it gets anywhere close to you you'll probably already be getting a booster ngl

Effective at what?

Making sure the virus doesn't kill you/seriously harm you.

[Dolan]

The new variant has my BNTX calls going through the roof

The more boomers die, the higher the gains!

*millennial hands-rubbing intensifies*

[XeeleeFlower]

The new variant has me freaking out a little.

The vaccines are effective. You will be fine, and in all likelihood even if the new variant is more dangerous, by the time it gets anywhere close to you you'll probably already be getting a booster ngl

New strain is apparently resistant to the vaccines. There is a case in Belgium, which is right next door soooo...

[fightinfrenchman]

The new variant has me freaking out a little.

The vaccines are effective. You will be fine, and in all likelihood even if the new variant is more dangerous, by the time it gets anywhere close to you you'll probably already be getting a booster ngl

New strain is apparently resistant to the vaccines. There is a case in Belgium, which is right next door soooo...

I have faith in the vaccine and I survived the virus without it anyway

[duckzilla]

My favourite vaccine company (BNTX, you name it!) already started preparations for a potential escape variant of the virus multiple months ago. The process is relatively simple. BioNTech needs 6 weeks to fit its vaccine to the new variation. Then it takes 100 days to deliver the first vaccines.