COVID-19 / Coronavirus Outbreak

[chris1089]

Why don’t we just develop a super infectious and non-lethal strain and spread it around the world to end the pandemic? Rutte wake up

Sounds like Omicron to me.

[duckzilla]

Why don’t we just develop a super infectious and non-lethal strain and spread it around the world to end the pandemic? Rutte wake up

Sounds like Omicron to me.

Omicron is non-lethal to you? It might be 30-40% less lethal than Delta, but that still makes it lethal

[harcha]

Why don’t we just develop a super infectious and non-lethal strain and spread it around the world to end the pandemic? Rutte wake up

Similar idea is usually achieved with vaccines.

[RefluxSemantic]

Kind of has me wondering if it's even worth it to go get a booster right now, might be better to just quarantine for a month and wait out the wave
Since there's so many people at the vaxx place it seems pretty likely you'll get infected there

I dont really think its a big risk tbh. If it would spread in those situations, people would be infecting dozens of people at the grocery store.

The r value is still below 2, so when you catch it you spread it to less than 2 people on average. Would one of those 2 be a person at the grocery store? If I would catch it and Id spread it to my girlfriend and two friends that I had beers with, that'd be an above average outcome. No way you infect people while waiting in line, wearing a mask, at 1.5m distance.

[harcha]

I feel like the person behind me in the grocery store is usually maintaining a solid 0.2m distance

[princeofcarthage]

According to UK experts the r value of omicron is between 3 to 5

In many Indian cities where there is community transmission, the reported r value is 2.5+

[RefluxSemantic]

If there were no restrictions, like quarantaining, maybe so. Right now in NL its about 1.5.

[n0el]

If there were no restrictions, like quarantaining, maybe so. Right now in NL its about 1.5.

based on what data? everyone agrees the Ro of omicron is over 3 more like 5-8 depending on vaccination status

[RefluxSemantic]

If there were no restrictions, like quarantaining, maybe so. Right now in NL its about 1.5.

based on what data? everyone agrees the Ro of omicron is over 3 more like 5-8 depending on vaccination status

Based on the current growth of the number of cases. At the moment 1 infected person infects approximately 1.63 people (RIVM: meer dan 200.000 positieve tests in een week, bijna helft bij jongeren - https://nos.nl/l/2412702). Thats the real world data, affected by current restrictions and vaccination status. Given the fact that people are still going to busy malls and generally still see many others at small gatherings, I doubt that something like a big vaccination location poses a serious threat.

[edeholland]

If there were no restrictions, like quarantaining, maybe so. Right now in NL its about 1.5.

based on what data? everyone agrees the Ro of omicron is over 3 more like 5-8 depending on vaccination status

https://coronadashboard.government.nl/l ... uctiegetal

[RefluxSemantic]

If there were no restrictions, like quarantaining, maybe so. Right now in NL its about 1.5.

based on what data? everyone agrees the Ro of omicron is over 3 more like 5-8 depending on vaccination status

https://coronadashboard.government.nl/l ... uctiegetal

Its not updated to the latest value of 1.63 but this also tells the story. It cant be as contagious as some people claim it is. That just doesnt make any sense.

[edeholland]

Yeah the number is always at least 2 weeks old because of the incubation period.

[princeofcarthage]

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If there were no restrictions, like quarantaining, maybe so. Right now in NL its about 1.5.

based on what data? everyone agrees the Ro of omicron is over 3 more like 5-8 depending on vaccination status

https://coronadashboard.government.nl/l ... uctiegetal

Its not updated to the latest value of 1.63 but this also tells the story. It cant be as contagious as some people claim it is. That just doesnt make any sense.

Each country had different experience with the virus. Although first detected in South Africa, it quickly receded and didn't leave much destruction while it has ravaged most of Europe and America at least in terms of number of infections. In India also cases are dropping remarkably fast despite increase in testing. Russia is even worse hit, number of cases are similar to US (relatively) but is facing higher death rate.

[n0el]

that data suggests no difference between delta and omicron, which seems like it can't be accurate.

[princeofcarthage]

that data suggests no difference between delta and omicron, which seems like it can't be accurate.

Researches have shown that virus loses its ability to infect in air as it attempts to survive. So really transmission is only possible in close proximity. Dutch introduced restrictions pretty early on. If they managed contact and people did social distancing + masks + vaccines then the virus doesn't really have lot of options to spread. That could explain the spread similar to delta.

[RefluxSemantic]

that data suggests no difference between delta and omicron, which seems like it can't be accurate.

If you are talking about what I/edeholland linked, you need to look more closely.

[fightinfrenchman]

People have really just convinced themselves that the vaccine doesn't exist/does nothing. It's insane

[princeofcarthage]

Well omicron is kicking our asses even with vaccines...

[pecelot]

the analogy is rather silly

[princeofcarthage]

We have a similar saying here. If an ant gets into the ear of the elephant it can even make elephant dance. We are the elephant. Virus is the ant. And it's making us dance.

[knusch]

omicron overhyped³

[gibson]

People have really just convinced themselves that the vaccine doesn't exist/does nothing. It's insane

Someone needs to tell this guy that the virus = over.

[evilcheadar]

Well omicron is kicking our asses even with vaccines...

They’re calling it the virus. The invisible enemy

[harcha]

not sure if you can say it's over when there's a mil+ daily cases in your country

[duckzilla]

Well omicron is kicking our asses even with vaccines...

They’re calling it the virus. The invisible enemy

It’s over