Dolan wrote:Then point to specific nations rather than the whole Europe being to blame. I don't blame the whole of Asia for the corona, only China.
It's crazy how China got away with creating such a crisis without getting internationally ostracized.
Because there is no definitive proof. Research has indicated Sars 2 existed in Europe and US probably since March 2019. Remember the first case identified was in Wuhan doesn't mean it was the first case. Also its not like China intentionally caused the pandemic. There is no point in blaming a certain nation for natural disasters.
Which research indicated Sars 2 existed in Europe before 2020
It is likely that when first case was reported in Wuhan the virus was already pretty much all over the world and the actual cases were in thousands if not millions. Normally the growth is exponential in such diseases but as with any exponential graph the initial growth rate is extremely low. It is completely possible that original case identified was in fact a variant and the original spillover might have occurred way earlier even possibly years before.
Were those results replicated by anyone else? You're making big generalisations based on a single study whose authors say
When it’s just one result, you always want more data, more studies, more samples to confirm it and rule out a laboratory error or a methodological problem
Prof. Gertjan Medema of the KWR Water Research Institute in the Netherlands, whose team began using a coronavirus test on waste water in February, suggested the Barcelona group needs to repeat the tests to confirm it is really the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
Well many US states, also reported occurrence before first confirmed case of virus on Jan 20 in US. Italy also conducted a study and found possible existence earlier. Same was found in Brazil. Also how do you have a laboratory error or methodological problem when simply identifying virus. Either the sample is too dilute to reach conclusion or the virus is there. Either the virus is there or not. It is not something labs invent from thin air.
And it makes sense because both continents have the largest populations and the most rapid population growth (some might say explosive). Coupled with extremely poor living standards and hygene conditions, lots of people who are dependent on using risky sources of water, lack of sewerage, no access to medical services, very low incomes, high proportion of population living on subsistence levels which involves using risky sources of food (such as those found in the Wuhan market), etc, and you get the perfect breeding ground for new viruses that can start a pandemic.
RefluxSemantic wrote:I can't really find a justification for the claim about Mexico being urbanized that much. Could you share some more on that?
There's this article and more about urbanization in the central mexican highlands. But, to be fair, I have difficulties to assess how this compares to urbanization in other world regions. Tenochtitlan itself with its 200k+ inhabitants at least gives a hint that the valle de Mexico was quite densely populated in general.
Whatever is written above: this is no financial advice.
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
Well it's not outside the realm of possibility. Medicines are known to sometimes have unexpected effects. Maybe some component of the vaccine when taken in large quantities or on repeat basis helps improve arthritis? Unlikely but not impossible.
The person who tweeted this works for Ron DeSantis as his press secretary, and is tweeting this out in sincere agreement rather than pointing out how laughably stupid it is
I mean destantis has proven time and time again to be an idiot. My favorite is when “small government” conservatives cheer as he makes rules about how business can’t have vaccine mandates. It just goes to show the hypocrisy that they aren’t really small government or against government intervention in small business, they only are when it’s about stuff they don’t like.
wdym by fully vaccinated? even if you get 4 shots it won't stop omicron
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
I really wonder how things are going to go down. I'd assume that we're basically all going to get it now. Most of us have great protection against it though. Then what happens? I would assume those naturally vulnerable and unvaccinated basically die or get such a heavy case that they are immune and at that point we've run out of people that could potentially end up in the hospital, havent we?
Then what do we do? If the vaccine doesnt really protect against transmission (well it does, but not to the extend that we can stop the spread at all), is it actually worth it to keep boostering young people? What would the exit strategy look like?
In general I badly want my government to present an actual plan for the future and I dont think a good plan would involve continuous lockdowns.
Kind of has me wondering if it's even worth it to go get a booster right now, might be better to just quarantine for a month and wait out the wave
Since there's so many people at the vaxx place it seems pretty likely you'll get infected there
