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Re: A question for the mathematicians on this site
And the question is whether that equals to 0 or not. Reflux demonstrates it is, you are claiming it's not.princeofcarthage wrote:The correct possibility is simply 1/16^n where n = infinity, I don't understand why it is complicated more than it should be.
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It's not complicated though. You're just not educated enough to answer the question. For your info, 1/infinite = 0.princeofcarthage wrote:The correct possibility is simply 1/16^n where n = infinity, I don't understand why it is complicated more than it should be.
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It equals 0. @RefluxSemantic is right. lim n->inf (1/16^n) = 0. This is one of the first things we learned in university.edeholland wrote:And the question is whether that equals to 0 or not. Reflux demonstrates it is, you are claiming it's not.princeofcarthage wrote:The correct possibility is simply 1/16^n where n = infinity, I don't understand why it is complicated more than it should be.
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For explanation google "why is 1/x infinite zero"
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It doesn't equal to zero, it tends to zero, which for all practical purposes is considered zero. Ask any mathematician he will tell you the same, don't know where esoc's self proclaimed mathematicians left their common sense though.edeholland wrote:And the question is whether that equals to 0 or not. Reflux demonstrates it is, you are claiming it's not.princeofcarthage wrote:The correct possibility is simply 1/16^n where n = infinity, I don't understand why it is complicated more than it should be.
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No, you're mistaken. It is 0. The problem is in how you turn Edeholland's question into a mathematical problem. The number infinite does not really exist, so the only relevant case is what the limit of x-> infinity is. So we must formulate the problem as I did on page 1, and then we realize that indeed you can't get infinite free shots.princeofcarthage wrote:It doesn't equal to zero, it tends to zero, which for all practical purposes is considered zero. Ask any mathematician he will tell you the same, don't know where esoc's self proclaimed mathematicians left their common sense though.edeholland wrote:And the question is whether that equals to 0 or not. Reflux demonstrates it is, you are claiming it's not.princeofcarthage wrote:The correct possibility is simply 1/16^n where n = infinity, I don't understand why it is complicated more than it should be.
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Why is everyone overthinking this with nerd math shit? Its obviously possible to get an infinite amount of shots because every time you spin the wheel and get the shots + free spin you have 1/16 chance to spin the same thing again.
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https://www.quora.com/Is-1-infinity-equal-to-0iNcog wrote:Idk I'm kind of leaning towards siding with Carthage on this one. but I guess I will need to look into it
This one explains it the best.
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I am confused. He says exactly the same thing as I
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Theres some serious dunning kruger shit going on here
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What he says is that asking what 1/infinity is is not even a meaningful question, because infinity is not a number.
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Theres some serious nerd math shit going on here and not enough thinking about the real life situation
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Anyone who believes its impossible believes that there is a point where you spin the wheel and get the shots+respin and that on the respin its impossible for the spinner to land on that same section again. Gamblers fallacy at its finest and absolutely absurd when you think about it in terms of real life instead of nerd math.
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The real life situation is that you very obviously can't win infinite free shots because there's no such thing as infinite free shots. Infinity is not a number. It can't be used to quantify anything, and that includes shots.
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the question was is it impossible to get infinite shots. the answer was that the probability is basically zero (in other words it is as possible as having infinite time and infinite attempts) @gibson
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Well yes but thats the boring way to answer it.Goodspeed wrote:The real life situation is that you very obviously can't win infinite free shots because there's no such thing as infinite free shots. Infinity is not a number. It can't be used to quantify anything, and that includes shots.
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Yeah and the non-boring way is to get into some "serious nerd math shit", i.e. to stop thinking in practical terms and get theoretical. Practically it's obviously not possible.
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Just because an event has 0 probability doesn't mean its impossible. For example if you spin a wheel that has every real number on it(so an infinite amount of numbers) there's 0 chance for it to land on any individual number, and yet it still lands on a number.
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@gibson the question was about "infinite" number which requires "infinite" time so by the definition of question the maths is irrelevant as answer is no
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no, the chance would be 1/infinity which is more than 0gibson wrote:Just because an event has 0 probability doesn't mean its impossible. For example if you spin a wheel that has every real number on it(so an infinite amount of numbers) there's 0 chance for it to land on any individual number, and yet it still lands on a number.
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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Go out, make some girlfriends and get laid rather being nerd on website trying to score e-8=====D points
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