Heaven's Gate

[fightinfrenchman]

How aware are people outside of the US of the mass suicide cult known as Heaven's Gate? I feel like it's pretty well-known in the US but I was just curious. I was recently reading about the guy in charge of it and his life is quite interesting/depressing.

[occamslightsaber]

How aware are people outside of the US of the mass suicide cult known as Heaven's Gate? I feel like it's pretty well-known in the US but I was just curious. I was recently reading about the guy in charge of it and his life is quite interesting/depressing.

I remember learning about this in high school, since we were like 10 minutes from Rancho Santa Fe. I don’t remember much details though.

[fightinfrenchman]

Oh I forgot to mention that the reason I got interested was because someone I follow on Twitter posted about how their website is still active. Very creepy shit

http://heavensgate.com/index.html#keys

[evilcheadar]

Jim jones

[Jam]

Jim jones

[deleted_user]

Drink the koolaid. Koolaid was invented in Nebraska, USA.

[fightinfrenchman]

Drink the koolaid. Koolaid was invented in Nebraska, USA.

You're thinking of a different event and a lot of those people were forcibly killed, it wasn't suicide.

[deleted_user]

Drink the koolaid. Koolaid was invented in Nebraska, USA.

You're thinking of a different event and a lot of those people were forcibly killed, it wasn't suicide.

I know I googled it, but I wanted to share my Nebraska knowledge.

[Jam]

I read The Kooliad once. Now I have strange powers that I don't fully understand.

[fightinfrenchman]

Drink the koolaid. Koolaid was invented in Nebraska, USA.

You're thinking of a different event and a lot of those people were forcibly killed, it wasn't suicide.

I know I googled it, but I wanted to share my Nebraska knowledge.

Why does the Rilo Kiley song The Execution of All Things mention Omaha?

[fightinfrenchman]

"might" is doing a lot of work here

[deleted_user]

"In all, 918 people died, including 276 children.[94] It was the greatest single loss of American civilian life in a deliberate act until the events of September 11, 2001.[95][96][97] This includes four that died at the Temple headquarters in Georgetown that night.[98]"

"Temple insider Michael Prokes, who had been ordered to deliver a suitcase containing Temple funds to be transferred to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union,[104][105] committed suicide in March 1979, four months after the Jonestown incident. In the days leading up to his death, Prokes sent notes to several people, together with a 30-page statement he had written about Peoples Temple. Herb Caen reprinted one copy in his San Francisco Chronicle column.[106] Prokes then arranged for a press conference in a Modesto, California, motel room, during which he read a statement to the eight reporters who attended. He then excused himself, entered a restroom, and fatally shot himself in the head.[106]"

"Before the tragedy, Temple member Paula Adams engaged in a romantic relationship with Guyana's Ambassador to the United States, Laurence "Bonny" Mann.[107] Adams later married Mann.[108] On October 24, 1983, Mann fatally shot both Adams and the couple's child, and then fatally shot himself.[108] Defecting member Harold Cordell lost 20 family members the evening of the poisonings.[109] The Bogues family, which had also defected, lost their daughter Marilee (age 18), while defector Vernon Gosney lost his son Mark (age 5).[110]"

lol this shit was so fucked

[fightinfrenchman]

Shit is crazy

https://gizmodo.com/the-online-legacy-o ... 1617403237

[Mr_Bramboy]

Crazy Americans. No one in Europe cares about the Crazy Americans anymore.

[deleted_user]

Shit is crazy

https://gizmodo.com/the-online-legacy-o ... 1617403237

That's a good read

[Horsemen]

Heaven's Gate was good, but Jonestown was even better

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown

In total, 909 individuals died in Jonestown,[2] all but two from apparent cyanide poisoning, in an event termed "revolutionary suicide" by Jones and some Peoples Temple members on an audio tape of the event, and in prior recorded discussions. The poisonings in Jonestown followed the murder of five others by Temple members at Port Kaituma, including United States Congressman Leo Ryan, an act that Jones ordered. Four other Temple members committed murder-suicide in Georgetown at Jones' command.

Many members of the Temple believed that Guyana would be, as Jones promised, a paradise or utopia.[50] After Jones arrived, however, Jonestown life significantly changed.[49] Entertaining movies from Georgetown that the settlers had watched were mostly canceled in favor of Soviet propaganda shorts and documentaries on American social problems.[49] Bureaucratic requirements after Jones' arrival sapped labor resources for other needs.[49] Buildings fell into disrepair and weeds encroached on fields.[49] School study and nighttime lectures for adults turned to Jones' discussions about revolution and enemies, with lessons focusing on Soviet alliances, Jones' crises, and the purported "mercenaries" sent by Tim Stoen, who had defected from the Temple and turned against the group.[49]

For the first several months, Temple members worked six days a week, from approximately 6:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., with an hour for lunch.[51] In mid-1978, after Jones' health deteriorated and his wife began managing more of Jonestown's operations, the work week was reduced to eight hours a day for five days a week.[29] After the day's work ended, Temple members would attend several hours of activities in a pavilion, including classes in socialism.[19] Jones compared this schedule to the North Korean system of eight hours of daily work followed by eight hours of study.[52][53] This also comported with the Temple's practice of gradually subjecting its followers to sophisticated mind control and behavior modification techniques borrowed from North Korea and Mao Zedong's China.[54] Jones would often read news and commentary, including items from Radio Moscow and Radio Havana,[55] and was known to side with the Soviets over the Chinese during the Sino-Soviet split.[56]

"Discussion" around current events often took the form of Jones interrogating individual followers about the implications and subtexts of a given news item, or delivering lengthy and often confused monologues on how to "read" certain events. In addition to Soviet documentaries, political thrillers such as The Parallax View, The Day of the Jackal, State of Siege, and Z were repeatedly screened and minutely analyzed by Jones. Recordings of commune meetings show how livid and frustrated Jones would get when anyone did not find the films interesting or did not understand the message Jones was placing upon them. Nothing in the way of film or recorded TV (shown on the commune's closed-circuit system), no matter how innocuous or seemingly politically neutral, could be viewed without a Temple staffer present to "interpret" the material for the viewers. This invariably meant damning criticisms of perceived capitalist propaganda in Western material, and glowing praise for and highlighting of Marxist–Leninist messages in material from Communist nations.[55]

Jones' recorded readings of the news were part of the constant broadcasts over Jonestown's tower speakers, such that all members could hear them throughout the day and night.[57] Jones' news readings usually portrayed the U.S. as a "capitalist" and "imperialist" villain, while casting "socialist" leaders, such as Kim Il-sung,[58] Robert Mugabe,[59] and Joseph Stalin[60] in a positive light.

Jonestown's primary means of communication with the outside world was a shortwave radio.[61] All voice communications with San Francisco and Georgetown were transmitted using this radio, from mundane supply orders to confidential Temple business.[61] The FCC cited the Temple for technical violations and for using amateur frequencies for commercial purposes.[61] Because shortwave radio was Jonestown's only effective means of non-postal communication, the Temple felt that the FCC's threats to revoke its operators' licenses threatened Jonestown's existence.[62]

Because it stood on poor soil, Jonestown was not self-sufficient and had to import large quantities of commodities such as wheat.[63] Temple members lived in small communal houses, some with walls woven from Troolie palm, and ate meals that reportedly consisted of nothing more on some days than rice, beans, greens, and occasionally meat, sauce, and eggs.[63][64] Despite having access to an estimated $26 million by late 1978,[65] Jones also lived in a tiny communal house, though fewer people lived there than in other communal houses.[64] His house reportedly held a small refrigerator containing, at times, eggs, meat, fruit, salads, and soft drinks.[64] Medical problems, such as severe diarrhea and high fevers, struck half the community in February 1978.

Although Jonestown contained no dedicated prison and no form of capital punishment, various forms of punishment were used against members considered to have serious disciplinary problems. Methods included imprisonment in a 6 × 4 × 3-foot (1.8 × 1.2 × 0.9m) plywood box and forcing children to spend a night at the bottom of a well, sometimes upside-down.[66] This "torture hole", along with beatings, became the subject of rumor among local Guyanese.[67][68] For some members who attempted to escape, drugs such as Thorazine, sodium pentathol, chloral hydrate, Demerol, and Valium were administered in an "extended care unit".[69] Armed guards patrolled the area day and night to enforce Jonestown's rules.

Children were generally surrendered to communal care, and at times were only allowed to see their biological parents briefly at night. Jones was called "Father" or "Dad" by both adults and children.[70] The community had a nursery at which 33 infants were born.[71]

68% of the members of Jonestown were African Americans, and for a year, the commune was run primarily through social security checks received by them.[72] Up to $65,000 in monthly welfare payments from U.S. government agencies to Jonestown residents were signed over to the Temple.[73] In 1978, officials from the U.S. embassy in Georgetown interviewed Social Security recipients on multiple occasions to make sure they were not being held against their will.[74] None of the 75 people interviewed by the embassy stated that they were being held captive, were forced to sign over welfare checks, or wanted to leave Jonestown.[74][75]

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[Dolan]

This is the curse of the Sioux. You took their lands, they put a curse on you.
Now many Americans have collective hallucinations and believe in the Church of the Latter Ayylmaos.

[deleted_user]

I had no idea the political significance the Peoples Temple had, and the crossover with the Harvey Milk timeline.

He arrived that day by climbing through a first-floor window on the side of City Hall carrying a Smith & Wesson Model 36 .38 caliber revolver and 10 rounds of ammunition. By entering the building through the window, White managed to avoid the recently installed metal detectors. After entering Moscone's office, White pleaded to be reinstated as supervisor, but Moscone refused. White then killed Moscone by shooting him in the shoulder and chest, and twice in the head. He then walked to the other side of City Hall to Milk's office, reloaded the gun, and fatally shot Milk five times, the final two shots fired with the gun's barrel touching Milk's skull, according to the medical examiner.

Dan White served only 5 years in prison for this lol.

[Horsemen]

[Amsel_]

Laugh all you want, but this nigga's doing donuts around Mars in his UFO while you're stuck waging away.

[Horsemen]

"[Hale-Bopp comet] will next return to the inner Solar System around the year 4385"

Now I just have to figure out how to live for 2000 years

[fightinfrenchman]

"[Hale-Bopp comet] will next return to the inner Solar System around the year 4385"

Now I just have to figure out how to live for 2000 years

Take some supplements

[Dolan]

I heard baby blood cocktails can do wonders.

[Amsel_]

I heard baby blood cocktails can do wonders.

sup podesta