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fightinfrenchman wrote:You wrote that you voted for Trump, did you not?
Remember when we talked for like 5 hours and we discussed the reason for me voting for Trump? Protest vote XD
The reason you voted for him is irrelevant, your vote was you agreeing with his anti-choice platform
Okay now I see how your brain works. lol
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I mean if you think controlling women's bodies is fascism and you voted for somebody who is anti-choice doesn't that kind of make you a fascist?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:I mean if you think controlling women's bodies is fascism and you voted for somebody who is anti-choice doesn't that kind of make you a fascist?
I also would've voted for Bernie but I don't want to get into why I didn't vote for Hillary but it had to do when them being undemocratic towards Bernie.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:I mean if you think controlling women's bodies is fascism and you voted for somebody who is anti-choice doesn't that kind of make you a fascist?
I also would've voted for Bernie but I don't want to get into why I didn't vote for Hillary but it had to do when them being undemocratic towards Bernie.
How did you feel about the electoral college being undemocratic towards Hillary voters?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
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fightinfrenchman wrote:I mean if you think controlling women's bodies is fascism and you voted for somebody who is anti-choice doesn't that kind of make you a fascist?
I also would've voted for Bernie but I don't want to get into why I didn't vote for Hillary but it had to do when them being undemocratic towards Bernie.
How did you feel about the electoral college being undemocratic towards Hillary voters?
Every side feels it's fair when they win and unfair when they lose. I think each state gets their voice.
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Do you acknowledge that it was undemocratic and just don't care?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:Do you acknowledge that it was undemocratic and just don't care?
Some states more a higher population than others. Why should Rhode Island get the same say as California?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:Do you acknowledge that it was undemocratic and just don't care?
Some states more a higher population than others. Why should Rhode Island get the same say as California?
They shouldn't? That's the point I'm making. I don't understand what you're saying
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
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fightinfrenchman wrote:I mean if you think controlling women's bodies is fascism and you voted for somebody who is anti-choice doesn't that kind of make you a fascist?
I also would've voted for Bernie but I don't want to get into why I didn't vote for Hillary but it had to do when them being undemocratic towards Bernie.
How did you feel about the electoral college being undemocratic towards Hillary voters?
No I don't think the election was undemocratic. The general election of Trump vs Hillary. That was fair
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Why not?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:Why not?
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How does that image mean it was democratic?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:How does that image mean it was democratic?
You think the electoral college is undemocratic?

Why should a large city with a bunch of idiots get to decide for the rest of the country.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:How does that image mean it was democratic?
You think the electoral college is undemocratic?

Why should a large city with a bunch of idiots get to decide for the rest of the country.
I think the person who gets the most votes should win, not the person who gets the second highest number of votes. That would be more democratic.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
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fightinfrenchman wrote:How does that image mean it was democratic?
You think the electoral college is undemocratic?

Why should a large city with a bunch of idiots get to decide for the rest of the country.
I think the person who gets the most votes should win, not the person who gets the second highest number of votes. That would be more democratic.
It wouldn't represent the country as a whole if we did it like that. Big cities would decide it and the democrats would just always win cuz they like giving out government benefits to people more.
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What do you think it means to be democratic?
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I think the person who gets the most votes should win, not the person who gets the second highest number of votes. That would be more democratic.
It wouldn't represent the country as a whole if we did it like that. Big cities would decide it and the democrats would just always win cuz they like giving out government benefits to people more.
Shouldn't they be trying to appeal the broadest number of people possible? If you can't win a popular vote, maybe there is something wrong with your platform. Republicans have won the popular vote before, why are they scared of it now?
If your stance is 1 person doesn't equal 1 vote, then why have a democracy at all? Was it democratic when black people only counted as 1/5th of a person on the census? Would it be fair if every Asian vote was worth 2 votes? Should you get an extra .3 of a vote because you live in the suburbs? Your answer to all of these is of course, NO, that's ridiculous. Because we don't assign votes based on race, ethnicity, wealth, so we certainly shouldn't do it because of where you live.
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B-but the USA is not a democracy, it's a republic!
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@bittersalt123 I can't put my finger on it, but for some reason I think you're full of shit when you say your 2016 vote was a "protest vote". If you're not a Trump supporter you're doing a piss poor job showing it tbh
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Dolan wrote:@fightinfrenchman
B-but the USA is not a democracy, it's a republic!
A democracy can be a republic. Could also be a constitutional monarchy.
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bittersalt123 wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:How does that image mean it was democratic?
You think the electoral college is undemocratic?

Why should a large city with a bunch of idiots get to decide for the rest of the country.
"Bunch of idiots" is key to your argument :D because usually the votes of individuals beats land mass. Let's just say that best practise is to have one person one vote. The US already has elements of regional representation (like the Congress or the Senate). The president could just be voted for directly. Would be better :flowers:
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Theodore wrote:
Dolan wrote:@fightinfrenchman
B-but the USA is not a democracy, it's a republic!
A democracy can be a republic. Could also be a constitutional monarchy.
I know. I was being sarcastic, hence why I put an "!" at the end.

It's a common myth in the USA which lots of ordinary people believe that "Americuh is not a democracy, it's a republic" as if that makes them super-special and unique in the world.
Obviously there's no such thing as a form of government called republic that isn't a democracy too, with the exception of old historical republics in which citizens were only a certain category of people (men of fighting age) or fake democracies like North Korea which also call themselves republics. And yeah, the reverse is not true, there are also lots of democracies that aren't also republics (constitutional monarchies). Basically modern republics are all democracies, but not all modern democracies are republics.
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Internet is terrible for discussions indeed. I know why /s exists :D

btw I have never heard of that myth.
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Just search "america is a republic not a democracy" and see what you get.
It's an opinion that is very popular among right-wingers in the USA.
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Goodspeed wrote:@bittersalt123 I can't put my finger on it, but for some reason I think you're full of shit when you say your 2016 vote was a "protest vote". If you're not a Trump supporter you're doing a piss poor job showing it tbh
That's just it. You can't put your finger on it so I think you're full of shit.

I'm not full of shit tbh
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