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kaister wrote:America, despite its problems, is still the greatest country in the world, despite what random morons think about it.
:lol:

That's some looow standards right there haha
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@gamevideo113 sure Italy, with its low GDP, high corruption and garbage legal system is much better how did I forget
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@kaister Can't really lecture about corruption rn lol
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iNcog wrote:all policemen are complicit. they all cover each other and turn a blind eye to murder committed by their colleagues. my opinion of policemen could not be lower, they are all murderers or complicit

those riots should be even harsher. enough with these power hungry twats with the licence to kill
You are so wrong. You are even part of the problem. This is the kind of mentality that creates these problems. You don’t see individuals, you lump thousands of different people together because of the fault of a few.
You act no different from the racists who blame all colored people for the crimes of a few.

I can understand that you are upset (so am I), but that is still no reason to call all policemen murderers or complicits.

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@fightinfrenchman I'd say corruption is a much bigger problem for Italy than in the US
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kaister wrote:@gamevideo113 sure Italy, with its low GDP, high corruption and garbage legal system is much better how did I forget
Haha there you go, make it "personal" when i even didn't mention Italy once. So petty.
Italy is far from perfect, but I just wouldn't brag about living in a country where:
-you could probably sell both your kidneys to the black market and still not be able to pay for your student loans;
-highest obesity rate in the world, which speaks volumes about the habits of the average citizen and their level of instruction;
-fundamentally flawed healthcare system. I'm not sure it's even logically possible to argue that the american system is ethical in the slightest;
-racism problems are still a big thing;
-guns are everywhere and shootings happen daily basically;
-trump;
-probably the most consumistic country of all

And i'm sure this is just the tip of the iceberg.

But muh capitalism, muh freedom, muh guns!
America is not a bad country, i'd probably still choose america over 95% of the rest of the world, but reading "america is the greatest country in the world" kinda makes me cringe ngl
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No need for a dick-measuring contest guys. Like Obama said, “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism.”
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It's not worth debating this.
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I just watched the full video and that cop may not have actually cared if the guy died based on how he behaved in the video. They mentioned the guy was on drugs, which may be the reason he was on the ground in the first place, but there is no excuse for not letting up when the man was unresponsive and even very little reason why pinning his neck is reasonable in the first place. That is definitely murder.
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IAmSoldieR wrote:Well it sounds like you made up your mind that he was intending on killing him. That's your opinion and I don't think you will be changing that, so it's kind of pointless to give another side of the argument.
Why u write stuff like that when u didn't even watch the vid?
kaister wrote: America, despite its problems, is still the greatest country in the world, despite what random morons think about it.
That arrogance is just insane. must be sarcasm right?
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Now CNN wants to throw fuel in the fire claiming 3 were arrested while rest allowed to stay as they were white. 3 arrested were latino, Hispanic and black.
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Cop killed the man while others watched. That’s absolutely terrible considering he was unarmed and in handcuffs. When The investigation is completed he should be charged with what the law dictates.

@iNcog to approve of rioting and stealing shit from others that had nothing to do with is so ridiculous. A joke. Dudes are trying to get a PS4 or Xbox out of this mess.
A cop in LA who could be doing his/her best to protect and serve their community is now getting a skateboard thrown through their window and you think that’s reasonable?
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This is unbelievable. The officer didn't intent to kill him as some people are saying? That was straight up murder and everyone knows it.
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@007Salt looks like murder to me but obviously has to go through investigation and trial. That’s what some are saying. It looks really bad from what we can see (which no one denies, I think?) but the whole scenario has not been fully comprehended
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vardar wrote:@007Salt looks like murder to me but obviously has to go through investigation and trial. That’s what some are saying. It looks really bad from what we can see (which no one denies, I think?) but the whole scenario has not been fully comprehended
It doesn't have to go through anything for you to look at it and determine what happened
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@fightinfrenchman we have investigators for a reason, can’t just look at a video and know what fully happened...
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vardar wrote:@fightinfrenchman we have investigators for a reason, can’t just look at a video and know what fully happened...
Yes, you can
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
vardar wrote:@fightinfrenchman we have investigators for a reason, can’t just look at a video and know what fully happened...
Yes, you can
So you think he should be thrown in prison without an investigation to find out what fully happened? Regardless of how damning the evidence is in that video?
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vardar wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:
vardar wrote:@fightinfrenchman we have investigators for a reason, can’t just look at a video and know what fully happened...
Yes, you can
So you think he should be thrown in prison without an investigation to find out what fully happened? Regardless of how damning the evidence is in that video?
Convicting someone in a court is not the same thing as looking at a video with your eyes and realizing what happened
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@fightinfrenchman ok, fair. But to say he murdered him in cold blood based on that video (although a reasonable conclusion) is not an absolute truth until an investigation is fully completed...
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vardar wrote:@fightinfrenchman ok, fair. But to say he murdered him in cold blood based on that video (although a reasonable conclusion) is not an absolute truth until an investigation is fully completed...
Whatever the justice system ultimately decides isn't necessarily the "absolute truth" either.
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@fightinfrenchman well chances are it’s much better than going off a video and formulating opinion from that
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vardar wrote:@fightinfrenchman well chances are it’s much better than going off a video and formulating opinion from that
Do you think OJ Simpson ever killed anyone
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@fightinfrenchman hmm I’m not saying investigations are perfect but probably much better than what one can see from a video. As what you are doing.
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vardar wrote:@fightinfrenchman hmm I’m not saying investigations are perfect but probably much better than what one can see from a video. As what you are doing.
What about the video isn't clear to you?
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