US riots

[007Salt]

Putting a knee on someone's throat is never acceptable especially when they're not resisting and don't have a weapon.

[fightinfrenchman]

Putting a knee on someone's throat is never acceptable especially when they're not resisting and don't have a weapon.

Not to mention there were four cops there. If you were able to get him on the ground, how could four of you not be able to restrain him in a safe way, even if he was resisting?

[GiBthedurrty]

[vardar]

@fightinfrenchman what were the officers exact intentions? Did the man die from strangulation or was his cause of death something else? Did he have heart issues that under immense stress caused him to go into shock? What was the build up to this incident like? These issues matter in a criminal case, it’s not as simple as: see video —-> create accusations that should be implemented. Regardless of how evident the video is. Obviously the officer(s) is on the hot seat and I’m not trying to acquit him/them. Hopefully you aren’t seeing me as doing such... I’m just interested in the full details of this case and what created such an incident.

[fightinfrenchman]

@fightinfrenchman what were the officers exact intentions? Did the man die from strangulation or was his cause of death something else? Did he have heart issues that under immense stress caused him to go into shock? What was the build up to this incident like? These issues matter in a criminal case, it’s not as simple as: see video —-> create accusations that should be implemented. Regardless of how evident the video is. Obviously the officer(s) is on the hot seat and I’m not trying to acquit him/them. Hopefully you aren’t seeing me as doing such... I’m just interested in the full details of this case and what created such an incident.

He said he couldn't breathe and the guy kept his knee on his neck for several minutes. There was no reason for that, whatever other conditions George Floyd may have had are totally irrelevant

[vardar]

@fightinfrenchman like I said, the video is very alarming and detailed. It’s quite hard to watch

[fightinfrenchman]

Yes it's hard to watch because it depicts an armed agent of the state murdering someone for no reason

[vardar]

@fightinfrenchman There’s a reason and an investigation will bring this to light. There was reasoning for the officers actions. We will all know soon enough. But to say it was racially charged or any other claim should wait until a complete investigation is done

Check this out, interesting...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/minnesota. ... tclub/amp/

[fightinfrenchman]

@fightinfrenchman There’s a reason and an investigation will bring this to light. There was reasoning for the officers actions. We will all know soon enough. But to say it was racially charged or any other claim should wait until a complete investigation is done

Check this out, interesting...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/minnesota. ... tclub/amp/

"What she is certain of is how aggressive Officer Derek Chauvin became when the club hosted events that drew a mainly black clientele, responding to fights by taking out his mace and spraying the crowd, a tactic she told him was unjustified “overkill.”"

You've made me even more convinced that it was "racially charged," congrats

[vardar]

Lol I put this in for a reason. There’s more evidence coming out that is leaning in that direction. But instead of having an opinion based off a video do some more research and wait to proclaim such stuff when info comes out. @fightinfrenchman

[fightinfrenchman]

Well the video of him murdering a black man in public as people film him and his fellow cops not doing anything is actually good enough evidence for me, I don't need to do "research"

[vardar]

There’s where we have a problem. You assume and that is very unhealthy and leads to more problems. Because someone kills another person does not mean it was based off of racial hatred. Could be the case, may not be. @fightinfrenchman

[fightinfrenchman]

Well you yourself posted evidence of why I would think that

[vardar]

Yes a source outside of the video that possibly suggests that (doesn’t prove it). Instead of assuming because a crime was white on black, it has to be because of racial hatred. Am I making a case for myself or am I just talking to a wall? @fightinfrenchman

[fightinfrenchman]

Yes a source outside of the video that possibly suggests that (doesn’t prove it). Instead of assuming because a crime was white on black, it has to be because of racial hatred. Am I making a case for myself or am I just talking to a wall? @fightinfrenchman

Well the video also "suggests" it because it depicts a white cop murdering a black man who is restrained and saying he can't breathe

[vardar]

And that means it has to be racism. Right. That’s the default motive for any crime committed @fightinfrenchman

[fightinfrenchman]

Do you have any evidence it wasn't racism

[vardar]

He didn’t believe the guy was actually choking and carelessly left him there to die believing he was simply restraining him.

[fightinfrenchman]

Why didn't he believe him

[vardar]

I have no idea what was going through the officers mind but to default claim racism is silly

[vardar]

I retract the word silly and replace it with unproductive

[fightinfrenchman]

I have no idea what was going through the officers mind but to default claim racism is silly

"What she is certain of is how aggressive Officer Derek Chauvin became when the club hosted events that drew a mainly black clientele, responding to fights by taking out his mace and spraying the crowd, a tactic she told him was unjustified “overkill.”"

[vardar]

That’s the article I sent you man. You had never seen that before. This is ridiculous!

[fightinfrenchman]

That’s the article I sent you man. You had never seen that before. This is ridiculous!

But you saw it. So why aren't you reacting to what it says

[vardar]

I have and it made me realize racial tension likely played a factor. But your opinion was set before you saw it and that’s what I’m getting at.