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After debating this with some people, here's another possible explanation for why Russia might have destroyed some parts of the NS1 pipeline.
They've been using all sorts of tactics to lower the pressure of gas delivered through the pipes. They claimed technical difficulties, then stopped the flow for a while. Then they restarted it again.
But they were bound by a contract to keep delivering to those countries that caved in and accepted those payment conditions of making the conversion to rubles. If they didn't honour the contract, they'd have to pay some penalties.
So then they decided that they couldn't use technical issues too many times as an excuse to keep harrassing Euro clients by creating artificial scarcity, thus driving up spot market prices.
That's why they decided to torpedo some parts of the pipeline, leaving out only one, to keep increasing the pressure on Euro countries to stop sending weapons to Ukraine.
It's a move that was supposed to increase pressure on Western countries to stop supporting Ukraine by both withholding gas from them and by doing that also increasing gas prices in the market.
They left one pipe intact just in case Euros change their minds and stop supporting Ukraine for the sake of more cheaper gas, so they could deliver through that pipe if it came to that.
This scenario fits well with how the Russian leadership tends to think about solving problems through brute force and blackmailing the enemy with a known weakness.
They've been using all sorts of tactics to lower the pressure of gas delivered through the pipes. They claimed technical difficulties, then stopped the flow for a while. Then they restarted it again.
But they were bound by a contract to keep delivering to those countries that caved in and accepted those payment conditions of making the conversion to rubles. If they didn't honour the contract, they'd have to pay some penalties.
So then they decided that they couldn't use technical issues too many times as an excuse to keep harrassing Euro clients by creating artificial scarcity, thus driving up spot market prices.
That's why they decided to torpedo some parts of the pipeline, leaving out only one, to keep increasing the pressure on Euro countries to stop sending weapons to Ukraine.
It's a move that was supposed to increase pressure on Western countries to stop supporting Ukraine by both withholding gas from them and by doing that also increasing gas prices in the market.
They left one pipe intact just in case Euros change their minds and stop supporting Ukraine for the sake of more cheaper gas, so they could deliver through that pipe if it came to that.
This scenario fits well with how the Russian leadership tends to think about solving problems through brute force and blackmailing the enemy with a known weakness.
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Let's not forget that the only ever use of nuclear bombs in times of war was done by US and against largely civilian population or the Kosova bombing or 20 year retaliation against a country which ultimately had very little real connection to the terrorist attacks. Continuing to supply weapons which are used against civilian population for years now.duckzilla wrote: ↑18 Oct 2022, 07:11It's new to me that US or NATO deliberately attacked civilian infrastructure like hospitals, power plants and the like in Afghanistan or Iraq. While you can actually find a list of bombed civilian facilities, it is obvious that these are singular events, usually with legal consequences for those responsible. In contrast, Russia destroyed hundreds of civilian facitilies in the early phase of the war.
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wb @poc
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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Luckily India will be a global superpower by 2015 2020 2025 and can challenge the morally bankrupt USprinceofcarthage wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 10:17Let's not forget that the only ever use of nuclear bombs in times of war was done by US and against largely civilian population or the Kosova bombing or 20 year retaliation against a country which ultimately had very little real connection to the terrorist attacks. Continuing to supply weapons which are used against civilian population for years now.duckzilla wrote: ↑18 Oct 2022, 07:11It's new to me that US or NATO deliberately attacked civilian infrastructure like hospitals, power plants and the like in Afghanistan or Iraq. While you can actually find a list of bombed civilian facilities, it is obvious that these are singular events, usually with legal consequences for those responsible. In contrast, Russia destroyed hundreds of civilian facitilies in the early phase of the war.
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It's already the third economy by GDP. The West made them that through outsourcing and now they're getting brazen about it, saying the West is old news and China, Russia, India are now the real superpowers.Horsemen wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 17:39Luckily India will be a global superpower by 2015 2020 2025 and can challenge the morally bankrupt USprinceofcarthage wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 10:17Let's not forget that the only ever use of nuclear bombs in times of war was done by US and against largely civilian population or the Kosova bombing or 20 year retaliation against a country which ultimately had very little real connection to the terrorist attacks. Continuing to supply weapons which are used against civilian population for years now.Show hidden quotes
I guess that's why Rishi Sunak wants to open the UK's borders more to migration from Asia, to capture some of that workforce moving out of the superpowers to a place with worse life prospects like Britain.
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why is UK politics so goofy
i love it
i love it
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
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So... how is Sunak seen by the populace? On paper it looks like he could shape British politics for decades, if he is somewhat successful. Given that the material for comparison (BoJo/Truss) is utter trash and that Sunak doesn't appear to be a complete imbecile, this doesn't even look unrealistic from the outside.
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he's brown so the tory membership hates him, and he's rich so the labour membership hates himduckzilla wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 06:50So... how is Sunak seen by the populace? On paper it looks like he could shape British politics for decades, if he is somewhat successful. Given that the material for comparison (BoJo/Truss) is utter trash and that Sunak doesn't appear to be a complete imbecile, this doesn't even look unrealistic from the outside.
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Fine line to something great is a strange change.
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Wasn't he in charge when the furlough Covid scheme got defrauded and he decided to write off the losses. The UK lost like 4bn pounds back then. And now this guy gets promoted despite losing 4bn pounds of public fundsHorsemen wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 07:41he's brown so the tory membership hates him, and he's rich so the labour membership hates himduckzilla wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 06:50So... how is Sunak seen by the populace? On paper it looks like he could shape British politics for decades, if he is somewhat successful. Given that the material for comparison (BoJo/Truss) is utter trash and that Sunak doesn't appear to be a complete imbecile, this doesn't even look unrealistic from the outside.
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what would you have done?Dolan wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 10:23Wasn't he in charge when the furlough Covid scheme got defrauded and he decided to write off the losses. The UK lost like 4bn pounds back then. And now this guy gets promoted despite losing 4bn pounds of public fundsHorsemen wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 07:41he's brown so the tory membership hates him, and he's rich so the labour membership hates himduckzilla wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 06:50So... how is Sunak seen by the populace? On paper it looks like he could shape British politics for decades, if he is somewhat successful. Given that the material for comparison (BoJo/Truss) is utter trash and that Sunak doesn't appear to be a complete imbecile, this doesn't even look unrealistic from the outside.
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Implement the scheme properly. How could someone get free public money if they can't even produce a bill that can be easily verified by audit. If they can't they shouldn't get the money.
Lots of gypsies must have got some new BMWs by now, after declaring the expenses emergency bills to help their start-up survive
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it's so simple, why didn't he think of thatDolan wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 10:47Implement the scheme properly. How could someone get free public money if they can't even produce a bill that can be easily verified by audit. If they can't they shouldn't get the money.
Lots of gypsies must have got some new BMWs by now, after declaring the expenses emergency bills to help their start-up survive
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Because lots of those money probably ended up in some Tory funders pockets, as a great deal of payouts went to entrepreneurs and restaurant ownersHorsemen wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 11:18it's so simple, why didn't he think of thatDolan wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 10:47Implement the scheme properly. How could someone get free public money if they can't even produce a bill that can be easily verified by audit. If they can't they shouldn't get the money.Show hidden quotes
Lots of gypsies must have got some new BMWs by now, after declaring the expenses emergency bills to help their start-up survive
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Yes Rishi Sunak who is worth £700m and is the husband of the daughter of an Indian billionaire needed those payouts
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POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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Not for himself, but usually once you get in a position of power the party expects you to help the party's people.
It's part of how parties work, once they're in power they expect the party to give them something, so that they reap the benefits of being in power.
So they get jobs, contracts, funding for their pet projects, etc.
And the leaders are eager to do stuff for the party's people also as a way to create good connections in the party, to strengthen their own position and future in the party.
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did you see the video?
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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he shoulda made a vid of himself waving and just given them the file on a USB stick or through wifi
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