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Sex work is no lights, under the covers, missionary position only
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Stop telling everyone my fetishesCometk wrote:Sex work is no lights, under the covers, missionary position only
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No actual implications, it's just the fact that that label was created with the specific purpose of dignifying this occupation, that previously was considered demeaning.deleted_user wrote:What are the implications for removing the noun "work" from "sex work?"
It was just part of the Western progressive agenda to validate certain kinds of people or occupations by making them all sound respectable if it's called "work". It's really just the product of your specific type of society and mentalities that are prevalent there. It's a product of the Puritan, Protestant, Anglophone spirit, nothing else. It's not the product of some kind of universal mindset or something that everyone on the planet would agree with or that they immediately adopt, thanks to the immense genius of American SJW social thought.
It's an economic analogy between two occupations that make money by temporarily renting an asset, without much work involved or with little or occasional work involved. No relation whatsoever with any concept of meritocracy.What does the landlord analogy seek to accomplish? Do landlords not deserve their income? Is it to establish an inferior place in your meritocracy?
Unrelated to this subject, I do think that renting should not be such a profitable occupation, especially when it's done by people who hoard housing and basically drain working people's resources, without doing any work or almost none.
I don't see how any of these things would imply dehumanisation. Saying that you don't think a certain occupation qualifies as work or that it hardly does or only in some contexts does not imply the person doing it is somehow inferior. It's just your own projection. You're expecting only the typical gloryfing, dignifying way of speaking about it that you're used to from your own culture and if you see less than that, you accuse dehumanisation. You're just not used to cross-cultural debating.Genuinely curious about this part as thus far the reaction has (rightfully) been in response to perverse dehumanization.
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It's the Western progressive agenda that has legitimized sex work, as opposed to the fact that it's existed for literally thousands of years. And Puritans think it's good I guess because I'm dumb. Good post man
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Yeah, there's a difference between something existing in a clandestine way and something being made official and dignified, dontcha think, balloon brain?
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Dolan wrote:No actual implications, it's just the fact that that label was created with the specific purpose of dignifying this occupation, that previously was considered demeaning.deleted_user wrote:What are the implications for removing the noun "work" from "sex work?"
It was just part of the Western progressive agenda to validate certain kinds of people or occupation by making them all sound respectable if they're called "work". It's really just the product of your specific type of society and mentalities that are prevalent there. It's a product of the Puritan, Protestant, Anglophone spirit, nothing else. It's not the product of some kind of universal mindset or something that everyone on the planet would agree with or that they immediately adopt, thanks to the immense genius of American SWJ social thought.
On a very serious note, as a social scientist I particularly take issue with this horrible and non contextualized deployment of Weber to make a claim that in no way specifies a pathway from "The Protestant Ethic"--an irrelevant 19th century idea--to the modern day movement to dignify sex work.
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Responding to Dolan in a serious way is a pathway to insanity, there's no point in doing it. You're not going to change any minds, just dunk on the dumb posts he makescomradecommissar wrote:Dolan wrote:No actual implications, it's just the fact that that label was created with the specific purpose of dignifying this occupation, that previously was considered demeaning.deleted_user wrote:What are the implications for removing the noun "work" from "sex work?"
It was just part of the Western progressive agenda to validate certain kinds of people or occupation by making them all sound respectable if they're called "work". It's really just the product of your specific type of society and mentalities that are prevalent there. It's a product of the Puritan, Protestant, Anglophone spirit, nothing else. It's not the product of some kind of universal mindset or something that everyone on the planet would agree with or that they immediately adopt, thanks to the immense genius of American SWJ social thought.
On a very serious note, as a social scientist I particularly take issue with this horrible and non contextualized deployment of Weber to make a claim that in no way specifies a pathway from "The Protestant Ethnic"--an irrelevant 19th century idea--to the modern day movement to dignify sex work.
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Fair.fightinfrenchman wrote:Responding to Dolan in a serious way is a pathway to insanity, there's no point in doing it. You're not going to change any minds, just dunk on the dumb posts he makescomradecommissar wrote:Show hidden quotes
On a very serious note, as a social scientist I particularly take issue with this horrible and non contextualized deployment of Weber to make a claim that in no way specifies a pathway from "The Protestant Ethnic"--an irrelevant 19th century idea--to the modern day movement to dignify sex work.
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Puritans, famous lovers of sex work
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Same, tbh, on a very serious note, as a social "scientist" myself too (omagad, I just dehumanised social "scientists" by doubting their credentials, even though I am one myself too), Weber was making an argument about the link between the Protestant spirit and the emergence of capitalism, not about what qualifies as work or what kind of occupation should be turned from clandestine to legitimate.comradecommissar wrote:Dolan wrote:No actual implications, it's just the fact that that label was created with the specific purpose of dignifying this occupation, that previously was considered demeaning.deleted_user wrote:What are the implications for removing the noun "work" from "sex work?"
It was just part of the Western progressive agenda to validate certain kinds of people or occupation by making them all sound respectable if they're called "work". It's really just the product of your specific type of society and mentalities that are prevalent there. It's a product of the Puritan, Protestant, Anglophone spirit, nothing else. It's not the product of some kind of universal mindset or something that everyone on the planet would agree with or that they immediately adopt, thanks to the immense genius of American SWJ social thought.
On a very serious note, as a social scientist I particularly take issue with this horrible and non contextualized deployment of Weber to make a claim that in no way specifies a pathway from "The Protestant Ethnic"--an irrelevant 19th century idea--to the modern day movement to dignify sex work.
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Exactly...?Dolan wrote:Same, tbh, on a very serious note, as a social "scientist" myself too (omagad, I just dehumanised social "scientists" by doubting their credentials, even though I am one myself too), Weber was making an argument about the link between the Protestant spirit and the emergence of capitalism, not about what qualifies as work or what kind of occupation should be turned from clandestine to legitimate.comradecommissar wrote:Show hidden quotes
On a very serious note, as a social scientist I particularly take issue with this horrible and non contextualized deployment of Weber to make a claim that in no way specifies a pathway from "The Protestant Ethnic"--an irrelevant 19th century idea--to the modern day movement to dignify sex work.
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Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.Cometk wrote:Puritans, famous lovers of sex work
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Guys, if you wanna talk about racism or whatever, make your own thread for it. Remember to stay on-topic and to attack the post instead of the poster.
If everyone followed Jesus' commands regarding sex, marriage and relationships, there'd be no valid grounds for divorce and hence no harms from divorce.fightinfrenchman wrote:@lejend Why would there be no divorce? What
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But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.Dolan wrote:Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.Cometk wrote:Puritans, famous lovers of sex work
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For example, Pakistan is the world's biggest consumer of porn but sex workers are probably the most degraded and abused section of society.comradecommissar wrote:But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.Dolan wrote:Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.Cometk wrote:Puritans, famous lovers of sex work
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If you add his commands regarding marriage and relationships, then yes. But just sex, no. What if a couple can't agree on whether to have more children? Or they cannot get along in such a way that it harms the rest of their family?lejend wrote:Guys, if you wanna talk about racism or whatever, make your own thread for it. Remember to stay on-topic and to attack the post instead of the poster.
If everyone followed Jesus' commands regarding sex, marriage and relationships, there'd be no valid grounds for divorce and hence no harms from divorce.fightinfrenchman wrote:@lejend Why would there be no divorce? What
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Nobody says "belt states"Dolan wrote:Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.Cometk wrote:Puritans, famous lovers of sex work
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I'm neither religious nor conservative. Not sure where did you get that idea from. I follow my own path, wherever that may lead.comradecommissar wrote:But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.Dolan wrote:Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.Cometk wrote:Puritans, famous lovers of sex work
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One reason people think you're conservative is that you constantly talk about how black people, trans people, and sex workers are badDolan wrote:I'm neither religious nor conservative. Not sure where did you get that idea from. I only follow my own path, wherever that may lead.comradecommissar wrote:But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.Show hidden quotes
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Bible belt states, there you go: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/smut-j ... t-content/fightinfrenchman wrote:Nobody says "belt states"
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Exactly, I was right. Thank you for proving my pointDolan wrote:Bible belt states, there you go: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/smut-j ... t-content/fightinfrenchman wrote:Nobody says "belt states"
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That's just how you project what I'm saying. You can criticise something about someone without hating them.fightinfrenchman wrote:One reason people think you're conservative is that you constantly talk about how black people, trans people, and sex workers are badDolan wrote:I'm neither religious nor conservative. Not sure where did you get that idea from. I only follow my own path, wherever that may lead.Show hidden quotes
Some of the music I like is made by transsexuals. That doesn't mean that I can't criticise some parts of the culture which enabled them or that if I criticise it, this is a sign of hate. You're thinking very simplistically about this, in terms of either accept/glorify or reject/vilify.
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This is the same as "I have black friends so I can't be racist."Dolan wrote:That's just how you project what I'm saying. You can criticise something about someone without hating them.fightinfrenchman wrote:Show hidden quotes
One reason people think you're conservative is that you constantly talk about how black people, trans people, and sex workers are bad
Some of the music I like is made by transsexuals. That doesn't mean that I can't criticise some parts of the culture which enabled them or that if I criticise it, this is a sign of hate. You're thinking very simplistically about this, in terms of either accept/glorify or reject/vilify.
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And that reflects your culture's mindset about that occupation. Just as in the USA, calling it "sex work" reflects their own mindset about it. There's no universal way of thinking about this subject.comradecommissar wrote:For example, Pakistan is the world's biggest consumer of porn but sex workers are probably the most degraded and abused section of society.comradecommissar wrote:But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.Show hidden quotes
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Fred famously said that some things in life don't make sense. This is one of the things that does make sense so it's okay to think simplistically about itDolan wrote:That's just how you project what I'm saying. You can criticise something about someone without hating them.fightinfrenchman wrote:One reason people think you're conservative is that you constantly talk about how black people, trans people, and sex workers are badShow hidden quotes
Some of the music I like is made by transsexuals. That doesn't mean that I can't criticise some parts of the culture which enabled them or that if I criticise it, this is a sign of hate. You're thinking very simplistically about this, in terms of either accept/glorify or reject/vilify.
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