Pornhub Backlash and Content Purge

[Cometk]

Sex work is no lights, under the covers, missionary position only

[fightinfrenchman]

Sex work is no lights, under the covers, missionary position only

Stop telling everyone my fetishes

[Dolan]

What are the implications for removing the noun "work" from "sex work?"

No actual implications, it's just the fact that that label was created with the specific purpose of dignifying this occupation, that previously was considered demeaning.
It was just part of the Western progressive agenda to validate certain kinds of people or occupations by making them all sound respectable if it's called "work". It's really just the product of your specific type of society and mentalities that are prevalent there. It's a product of the Puritan, Protestant, Anglophone spirit, nothing else. It's not the product of some kind of universal mindset or something that everyone on the planet would agree with or that they immediately adopt, thanks to the immense genius of American SJW social thought.

What does the landlord analogy seek to accomplish? Do landlords not deserve their income? Is it to establish an inferior place in your meritocracy?

It's an economic analogy between two occupations that make money by temporarily renting an asset, without much work involved or with little or occasional work involved. No relation whatsoever with any concept of meritocracy.
Unrelated to this subject, I do think that renting should not be such a profitable occupation, especially when it's done by people who hoard housing and basically drain working people's resources, without doing any work or almost none.

Genuinely curious about this part as thus far the reaction has (rightfully) been in response to perverse dehumanization.

I don't see how any of these things would imply dehumanisation. Saying that you don't think a certain occupation qualifies as work or that it hardly does or only in some contexts does not imply the person doing it is somehow inferior. It's just your own projection. You're expecting only the typical gloryfing, dignifying way of speaking about it that you're used to from your own culture and if you see less than that, you accuse dehumanisation. You're just not used to cross-cultural debating.

[fightinfrenchman]

It's the Western progressive agenda that has legitimized sex work, as opposed to the fact that it's existed for literally thousands of years. And Puritans think it's good I guess because I'm dumb. Good post man

[Dolan]

Yeah, there's a difference between something existing in a clandestine way and something being made official and dignified, dontcha think, balloon brain?

[comradecommissar]

What are the implications for removing the noun "work" from "sex work?"

No actual implications, it's just the fact that that label was created with the specific purpose of dignifying this occupation, that previously was considered demeaning.
It was just part of the Western progressive agenda to validate certain kinds of people or occupation by making them all sound respectable if they're called "work". It's really just the product of your specific type of society and mentalities that are prevalent there. It's a product of the Puritan, Protestant, Anglophone spirit, nothing else. It's not the product of some kind of universal mindset or something that everyone on the planet would agree with or that they immediately adopt, thanks to the immense genius of American SWJ social thought.

On a very serious note, as a social scientist I particularly take issue with this horrible and non contextualized deployment of Weber to make a claim that in no way specifies a pathway from "The Protestant Ethic"--an irrelevant 19th century idea--to the modern day movement to dignify sex work.

[fightinfrenchman]

What are the implications for removing the noun "work" from "sex work?"

No actual implications, it's just the fact that that label was created with the specific purpose of dignifying this occupation, that previously was considered demeaning.
It was just part of the Western progressive agenda to validate certain kinds of people or occupation by making them all sound respectable if they're called "work". It's really just the product of your specific type of society and mentalities that are prevalent there. It's a product of the Puritan, Protestant, Anglophone spirit, nothing else. It's not the product of some kind of universal mindset or something that everyone on the planet would agree with or that they immediately adopt, thanks to the immense genius of American SWJ social thought.

On a very serious note, as a social scientist I particularly take issue with this horrible and non contextualized deployment of Weber to make a claim that in no way specifies a pathway from "The Protestant Ethnic"--an irrelevant 19th century idea--to the modern day movement to dignify sex work.

Responding to Dolan in a serious way is a pathway to insanity, there's no point in doing it. You're not going to change any minds, just dunk on the dumb posts he makes

[comradecommissar]

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What are the implications for removing the noun "work" from "sex work?"

No actual implications, it's just the fact that that label was created with the specific purpose of dignifying this occupation, that previously was considered demeaning.
It was just part of the Western progressive agenda to validate certain kinds of people or occupation by making them all sound respectable if they're called "work". It's really just the product of your specific type of society and mentalities that are prevalent there. It's a product of the Puritan, Protestant, Anglophone spirit, nothing else. It's not the product of some kind of universal mindset or something that everyone on the planet would agree with or that they immediately adopt, thanks to the immense genius of American SWJ social thought.

On a very serious note, as a social scientist I particularly take issue with this horrible and non contextualized deployment of Weber to make a claim that in no way specifies a pathway from "The Protestant Ethnic"--an irrelevant 19th century idea--to the modern day movement to dignify sex work.

Responding to Dolan in a serious way is a pathway to insanity, there's no point in doing it. You're not going to change any minds, just dunk on the dumb posts he makes

Fair.

[Cometk]

Puritans, famous lovers of sex work

[Dolan]

What are the implications for removing the noun "work" from "sex work?"

No actual implications, it's just the fact that that label was created with the specific purpose of dignifying this occupation, that previously was considered demeaning.
It was just part of the Western progressive agenda to validate certain kinds of people or occupation by making them all sound respectable if they're called "work". It's really just the product of your specific type of society and mentalities that are prevalent there. It's a product of the Puritan, Protestant, Anglophone spirit, nothing else. It's not the product of some kind of universal mindset or something that everyone on the planet would agree with or that they immediately adopt, thanks to the immense genius of American SWJ social thought.

On a very serious note, as a social scientist I particularly take issue with this horrible and non contextualized deployment of Weber to make a claim that in no way specifies a pathway from "The Protestant Ethnic"--an irrelevant 19th century idea--to the modern day movement to dignify sex work.

Same, tbh, on a very serious note, as a social "scientist" myself too (omagad, I just dehumanised social "scientists" by doubting their credentials, even though I am one myself too), Weber was making an argument about the link between the Protestant spirit and the emergence of capitalism, not about what qualifies as work or what kind of occupation should be turned from clandestine to legitimate.

[comradecommissar]

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What are the implications for removing the noun "work" from "sex work?"

No actual implications, it's just the fact that that label was created with the specific purpose of dignifying this occupation, that previously was considered demeaning.
It was just part of the Western progressive agenda to validate certain kinds of people or occupation by making them all sound respectable if they're called "work". It's really just the product of your specific type of society and mentalities that are prevalent there. It's a product of the Puritan, Protestant, Anglophone spirit, nothing else. It's not the product of some kind of universal mindset or something that everyone on the planet would agree with or that they immediately adopt, thanks to the immense genius of American SWJ social thought.

On a very serious note, as a social scientist I particularly take issue with this horrible and non contextualized deployment of Weber to make a claim that in no way specifies a pathway from "The Protestant Ethnic"--an irrelevant 19th century idea--to the modern day movement to dignify sex work.

Same, tbh, on a very serious note, as a social "scientist" myself too (omagad, I just dehumanised social "scientists" by doubting their credentials, even though I am one myself too), Weber was making an argument about the link between the Protestant spirit and the emergence of capitalism, not about what qualifies as work or what kind of occupation should be turned from clandestine to legitimate.

Exactly...?

[Dolan]

Puritans, famous lovers of sex work

Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.

[lejend]

Guys, if you wanna talk about racism or whatever, make your own thread for it. Remember to stay on-topic and to attack the post instead of the poster.

@lejend Why would there be no divorce? What

If everyone followed Jesus' commands regarding sex, marriage and relationships, there'd be no valid grounds for divorce and hence no harms from divorce.

[comradecommissar]

Puritans, famous lovers of sex work

Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.

But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.

[comradecommissar]

Puritans, famous lovers of sex work

Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.

But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.

For example, Pakistan is the world's biggest consumer of porn but sex workers are probably the most degraded and abused section of society.

[fightinfrenchman]

Guys, if you wanna talk about racism or whatever, make your own thread for it. Remember to stay on-topic and to attack the post instead of the poster.

@lejend Why would there be no divorce? What

If everyone followed Jesus' commands regarding sex, marriage and relationships, there'd be no valid grounds for divorce and hence no harms from divorce.

If you add his commands regarding marriage and relationships, then yes. But just sex, no. What if a couple can't agree on whether to have more children? Or they cannot get along in such a way that it harms the rest of their family?

[fightinfrenchman]

Puritans, famous lovers of sex work

Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.

Nobody says "belt states"

[Dolan]

Puritans, famous lovers of sex work

Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.

But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.

I'm neither religious nor conservative. Not sure where did you get that idea from. I follow my own path, wherever that may lead.

[fightinfrenchman]

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Puritans, famous lovers of sex work

Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.

But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.

I'm neither religious nor conservative. Not sure where did you get that idea from. I only follow my own path, wherever that may lead.

One reason people think you're conservative is that you constantly talk about how black people, trans people, and sex workers are bad

[Dolan]

Nobody says "belt states"

Bible belt states, there you go: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/smut-j ... t-content/

[fightinfrenchman]

Nobody says "belt states"

Bible belt states, there you go: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/smut-j ... t-content/

Exactly, I was right. Thank you for proving my point

[Dolan]

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Puritans, famous lovers of sex work

Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.

But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.

I'm neither religious nor conservative. Not sure where did you get that idea from. I only follow my own path, wherever that may lead.

One reason people think you're conservative is that you constantly talk about how black people, trans people, and sex workers are bad

That's just how you project what I'm saying. You can criticise something about someone without hating them.
Some of the music I like is made by transsexuals. That doesn't mean that I can't criticise some parts of the culture which enabled them or that if I criticise it, this is a sign of hate. You're thinking very simplistically about this, in terms of either accept/glorify or reject/vilify.

[comradecommissar]

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Puritans, famous lovers of sex work

Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.

But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.

I'm neither religious nor conservative. Not sure where did you get that idea from. I only follow my own path, wherever that may lead.

One reason people think you're conservative is that you constantly talk about how black people, trans people, and sex workers are bad

That's just how you project what I'm saying. You can criticise something about someone without hating them.
Some of the music I like is made by transsexuals. That doesn't mean that I can't criticise some parts of the culture which enabled them or that if I criticise it, this is a sign of hate. You're thinking very simplistically about this, in terms of either accept/glorify or reject/vilify.

This is the same as "I have black friends so I can't be racist."

[Dolan]

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Puritans, famous lovers of sex work

Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.

But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.

For example, Pakistan is the world's biggest consumer of porn but sex workers are probably the most degraded and abused section of society.

And that reflects your culture's mindset about that occupation. Just as in the USA, calling it "sex work" reflects their own mindset about it. There's no universal way of thinking about this subject.

[fightinfrenchman]

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Puritans, famous lovers of sex work

Paradoxically, that's the case. The so-called "belt states" in the USA are known as the biggest consumers of porn.

But they don't dignify it as sex work either. They're more like you tbh.

I'm neither religious nor conservative. Not sure where did you get that idea from. I only follow my own path, wherever that may lead.

One reason people think you're conservative is that you constantly talk about how black people, trans people, and sex workers are bad

That's just how you project what I'm saying. You can criticise something about someone without hating them.
Some of the music I like is made by transsexuals. That doesn't mean that I can't criticise some parts of the culture which enabled them or that if I criticise it, this is a sign of hate. You're thinking very simplistically about this, in terms of either accept/glorify or reject/vilify.

Fred famously said that some things in life don't make sense. This is one of the things that does make sense so it's okay to think simplistically about it