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[evilcheadar]

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How strong do you think steel is at room temperature compared to jet fuel burning temperatures?

It can get stronger with heat. The energies cancel out after a certain point.

Isnt that Kimmey’s Hypothesis?

What

Energy cancellation

[Sensei]

Jocasta and Laius were represented by the two towers. The first plane represents Oedipus's sword hitting Laius. The second plane represents Oedipus's penis "hitting" Jocasta. The collapse of the towers represents the collapse of Oedipus's kingdom.

[howlingwolfpaw]

What temperature range do you think the towers were burning at?

I have no idea but not nearly hot enough to melt anything. When trying to smelt iron in cupola, it takes an intense amount of time and air and energy to melt it. Much more fuel to weight of beams ratio. just not enough energy, most of it seemed if was even fuel burned at impact and after that was mostly just office fires IMO. From ground zero pics you can even see the cut beams from some kind of thermite or tech.

[evilcheadar]

@howlingwolfpaw I remember an interview I saw with someone who got out of the towers from a higher floor (below the crash site). He said he remembered seeing holosprays planted before he ran down the stairs. Did you hear about this? Interesting possibility.

[howlingwolfpaw]

@howlingwolfpaw you realize that planting and successfully detonating explosives this powerful is much harder than just flying the actual planes right?

actual planes would not have given the effect. they would have damaged the buildings, but not destroyed the evidence, and then they would have had to pay for a demolition crew to do its job, and the damages would have made the fall more unpredictable so they could save their other investments nearby

[fightinfrenchman]

Again, it's a matter of whether an inside job could even be hidden this well. Same as GS pointed on in the previous thread - there is no way that a large number of people could keep a secret this big and no good evidence of conspiracy would have come up in 20 years time. But who cares about 911 when Trump gives you "911 a day" in death toll.

they haven't kept it a secret. So much is out there for the seekers.

lots of information and things to really question but as the old quote from M Twain goes: "it is easier to fool someone than convince them they have been fooled"

Please develop self-awareness

[howlingwolfpaw]

@howlingwolfpaw I remember an interview I saw with someone who got out of the towers from a higher floor (below the crash site). He said he remembered seeing holosprays planted before he ran down the stairs. Did you hear about this? Interesting possibility.

whats a holospray?

[fightinfrenchman]

@howlingwolfpaw Here's a question: do you think the 1993 WTC bombing was an inside job?

I don't know do you have reason to believe that?

Do you? It doesn't make sense for one of them to be an inside job and the other not to be.
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[howlingwolfpaw]

well as fun as this is I got to take a break for the holidays to make some food! Remember to enjoy the day and give thanks for all our blessings.

Peace be with you all

[evilcheadar]

@howlingwolfpaw I remember an interview I saw with someone who got out of the towers from a higher floor (below the crash site). He said he remembered seeing holosprays planted before he ran down the stairs. Did you hear about this? Interesting possibility.

whats a holospray?

It’s basically a sort of signaling beacon type thing from what I understand

[n0el]

@howlingwolfpaw let’s say that the beams so soft enough to cut like butter when the planes wings went through. How could they hold the weight of the concrete and steel above them?

[voigt1240]

Interested to hear your take on What you think of tower 7

Do you reckon it was a controlled demolition that led to its collapse or do you think building 7 was hit by lots of debris from the towers and the fire weakened it structurally which made it collapse.

i have always heard 9/11 conspiracy theorists talking about tower 7.

@howlingwolfpaw

[fightinfrenchman]

I hope when George W. Bush is on his deathbed he says he did 9/11 just to fuck with people

[Sensei]

Interested to hear your take on What you think of tower 7

Do you reckon it was a controlled demolition that led to its collapse or do you think building 7 was hit by lots of debris from the towers and the fire weakened it structurally which made it collapse.

hard to go full tinfoil without involving tower 7.

@howlingwolfpaw

Pretty obvious it was demoed. Fire strengthens steel by removing impurities.

[fightinfrenchman]

People got mad about it but this ad is legitimately funny

[Sensei]

As a true Patriot it really makes my blood boil to see them poking fun at the 2,977 people murdered by the US government when they used thermite and tech stuff to blow up those towers. Never forget!

[howlingwolfpaw]

@howlingwolfpaw let’s say that the beams so soft enough to cut like butter when the planes wings went through. How could they hold the weight of the concrete and steel above them?

Its over engineered, if losing those supports were catastrophic to its structure then it would have collapsed almost immediately. and in a fashion that follows the path of least resistance and within the confines of physics.

Plus that steel is being insulated by concrete and flame retardants. Maybe even sprinkler systems.

Even hot, steel retains most of its compression strength, a long piece can be bent fairly easily, but to get even a small amount of steel to budge you need a much larger mass of hammer and speed that actually generates TONS of force in a very small area.

So this would still have been able to support the weight, and should it be weak in one area, it would not have made the whole building fall like that

[n0el]

Interested to hear your take on What you think of tower 7

Do you reckon it was a controlled demolition that led to its collapse or do you think building 7 was hit by lots of debris from the towers and the fire weakened it structurally which made it collapse.

i have always heard 9/11 conspiracy theorists talking about tower 7.

@howlingwolfpaw

Dude I was in tower 7 before it collapsed. I was working in Mayor Rudolph Guilianis emergency bunker, consulting on how to stop major crimes among the black community. After the first two towers were hit, I was going to get the F out of there, but I remembered we had 2 kilos of blow hidden under the kitchen sink. Since I was the lowest in terms of seniority and I really wanted Rudy to like me, I had to go back in and get the goods. When I was in there I saw 4 guys dressed in all black walking around the building. At the time I didn’t think anything of it, because I wanted to get the blow and get out, but thinking back i seem to remember them having a bunch of spools of wire with them. Odd huh? Anyways, i secured the product and we went over to Lil Joe’s on the island and got absolutely plowed. Woke up three days later and I thought it was a dream.

[howlingwolfpaw]

@howlingwolfpaw I remember an interview I saw with someone who got out of the towers from a higher floor (below the crash site). He said he remembered seeing holosprays planted before he ran down the stairs. Did you hear about this? Interesting possibility.

whats a holospray?

It’s basically a sort of signaling beacon type thing from what I understand

Curious..... I am not sure how this tech really works so whether or not it could project out of the building or was part of an external technology system linked to it or not.

Perhaps it was a beacon to a drone like object that could project a hologram of a plane around it, and then used that signal to attack that specific spot they needed for the rest of the illusion. (though quite real I'm afraid)

[princeofcarthage]

Actually I don't know where you are getting your info from but steel loses 50% of its strength at ~1200 deg f and jet fuel burns at ~1500 deg f. So while steel itself would not break it would lose enough strength to not sustain the weight.

[howlingwolfpaw]

Interested to hear your take on What you think of tower 7

Do you reckon it was a controlled demolition that led to its collapse or do you think building 7 was hit by lots of debris from the towers and the fire weakened it structurally which made it collapse.

i have always heard 9/11 conspiracy theorists talking about tower 7.

@howlingwolfpaw

I see no reason a building should fall like this. Clearly another act only concealed by peoples disillusionment that a criminal group would never try to infiltrate the gov't for their own agendas

There are many.

[Horsemen]

Reality is a hoax tbh we are all living in a simulation created by the government can’t prove me wrong haha

[Sensei]

Gravity can create quite a bit of force on a steel structure. The twin towers for instance weighed 500,000 tons each.

[fightinfrenchman]

Gravity can create quite a bit of force on a steel structure. The twin towers for instance weighed 500,000 tons each.

I don't see why having 500,000 tons of material above something would exert any pressure on it

[Sensei]

Actually I don't know where you are getting your info from but steel loses 50% of its strength at ~1200 deg f and jet fuel burns at ~1500 deg f. So while steel itself would not break it would lose enough strength to not sustain the weight.