PC Building - general topic

[princeofcarthage]

A factor 10 in speed is kinda interesting. If you go from 50 seconds to 5 seconds loading time that's great. Going from 1 to 0.1 is still nice but you won't really notice, and going from 0.1 to 0.01 is just kinda irrelevant. Something to keep in mind.

For example I appreciate that my pc boots up in a couple of seconds. Much faster than that is cool, but really not that big of a deal. If it boots up a game in 1 second or 5 seconds doesn't really matter to me. You do it one time and then you're just playing the game. But I also played some pillars of eternity 2 on an HDD and poe2 is a horrificly poorly optimized game with tons and tons of loading screens ingame. Having an SSD improved the experience a lot and even then I'd appreciate having an even faster SSD.

I played Poe2 on hdd and I din't remember having loading screens more than 10 secs tbh

Thats gotta be false. Poe2 has loading times of multiple seconds for large areas on my 3+ GBps SSD. Theres no way an hdd can load neketaka in any reasonable amount of time.

Tbh Poe2 is the most poorly optimized game I have ever played. Its just pure shit. Sucks that the rpg mechanics are so good so I keep playing it.

Yeah well some heavy maps take bit longer, but most of them load in 10-15 seconds. And its actually completely technically possible.

[RefluxSemantic]

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A factor 10 in speed is kinda interesting. If you go from 50 seconds to 5 seconds loading time that's great. Going from 1 to 0.1 is still nice but you won't really notice, and going from 0.1 to 0.01 is just kinda irrelevant. Something to keep in mind.

For example I appreciate that my pc boots up in a couple of seconds. Much faster than that is cool, but really not that big of a deal. If it boots up a game in 1 second or 5 seconds doesn't really matter to me. You do it one time and then you're just playing the game. But I also played some pillars of eternity 2 on an HDD and poe2 is a horrificly poorly optimized game with tons and tons of loading screens ingame. Having an SSD improved the experience a lot and even then I'd appreciate having an even faster SSD.

I played Poe2 on hdd and I din't remember having loading screens more than 10 secs tbh

Thats gotta be false. Poe2 has loading times of multiple seconds for large areas on my 3+ GBps SSD. Theres no way an hdd can load neketaka in any reasonable amount of time.

Tbh Poe2 is the most poorly optimized game I have ever played. Its just pure shit. Sucks that the rpg mechanics are so good so I keep playing it.

Yeah well some heavy maps take bit longer, but most of them load in 10-15 seconds. And its actually completely technically possible.

Are you sure you're talking about pillars of eternity 2? Sounds like you might've confused the game with path of exile?

[gibson]

I dunno, I just bought a wd black m.2 that's pci3 for 140, I could have bout a gen4 for 200. Kinda wish I'd just forked over the extra 60 bucks. 3700 read speed vs 7100.

[princeofcarthage]

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A factor 10 in speed is kinda interesting. If you go from 50 seconds to 5 seconds loading time that's great. Going from 1 to 0.1 is still nice but you won't really notice, and going from 0.1 to 0.01 is just kinda irrelevant. Something to keep in mind.

For example I appreciate that my pc boots up in a couple of seconds. Much faster than that is cool, but really not that big of a deal. If it boots up a game in 1 second or 5 seconds doesn't really matter to me. You do it one time and then you're just playing the game. But I also played some pillars of eternity 2 on an HDD and poe2 is a horrificly poorly optimized game with tons and tons of loading screens ingame. Having an SSD improved the experience a lot and even then I'd appreciate having an even faster SSD.

I played Poe2 on hdd and I din't remember having loading screens more than 10 secs tbh

Thats gotta be false. Poe2 has loading times of multiple seconds for large areas on my 3+ GBps SSD. Theres no way an hdd can load neketaka in any reasonable amount of time.

Tbh Poe2 is the most poorly optimized game I have ever played. Its just pure shit. Sucks that the rpg mechanics are so good so I keep playing it.

Yeah well some heavy maps take bit longer, but most of them load in 10-15 seconds. And its actually completely technically possible.

Are you sure you're talking about pillars of eternity 2? Sounds like you might've confused the game with path of exile?

Pillars of eternity 2 yes. I bought it on day 1 lol. It depends on hdd and system setup too though.

[Dolan]

I could have got the PCI 4 one too, but I don't think that's good value for money yet. You're paying for overpriced stuff just because it's the new tech that goes brrr.

[RefluxSemantic]

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A factor 10 in speed is kinda interesting. If you go from 50 seconds to 5 seconds loading time that's great. Going from 1 to 0.1 is still nice but you won't really notice, and going from 0.1 to 0.01 is just kinda irrelevant. Something to keep in mind.

For example I appreciate that my pc boots up in a couple of seconds. Much faster than that is cool, but really not that big of a deal. If it boots up a game in 1 second or 5 seconds doesn't really matter to me. You do it one time and then you're just playing the game. But I also played some pillars of eternity 2 on an HDD and poe2 is a horrificly poorly optimized game with tons and tons of loading screens ingame. Having an SSD improved the experience a lot and even then I'd appreciate having an even faster SSD.

I played Poe2 on hdd and I din't remember having loading screens more than 10 secs tbh

Thats gotta be false. Poe2 has loading times of multiple seconds for large areas on my 3+ GBps SSD. Theres no way an hdd can load neketaka in any reasonable amount of time.

Tbh Poe2 is the most poorly optimized game I have ever played. Its just pure shit. Sucks that the rpg mechanics are so good so I keep playing it.

Yeah well some heavy maps take bit longer, but most of them load in 10-15 seconds. And its actually completely technically possible.

Are you sure you're talking about pillars of eternity 2? Sounds like you might've confused the game with path of exile?

Pillars of eternity 2 yes. I bought it on day 1 lol. It depends on hdd and system setup too though.

I dont believe any medium sized areas can load within 5s on an HDD. I just dont believe that sorry.

[Dolan]

Yeah, I recently had a major fuckup with a drive that wouldn't boot anymore and I had to reinstall Windows on an alternative drive which was HDD.
Everything installed on HDD is just slow as molasses.

[princeofcarthage]

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A factor 10 in speed is kinda interesting. If you go from 50 seconds to 5 seconds loading time that's great. Going from 1 to 0.1 is still nice but you won't really notice, and going from 0.1 to 0.01 is just kinda irrelevant. Something to keep in mind.

For example I appreciate that my pc boots up in a couple of seconds. Much faster than that is cool, but really not that big of a deal. If it boots up a game in 1 second or 5 seconds doesn't really matter to me. You do it one time and then you're just playing the game. But I also played some pillars of eternity 2 on an HDD and poe2 is a horrificly poorly optimized game with tons and tons of loading screens ingame. Having an SSD improved the experience a lot and even then I'd appreciate having an even faster SSD.

I played Poe2 on hdd and I din't remember having loading screens more than 10 secs tbh

Thats gotta be false. Poe2 has loading times of multiple seconds for large areas on my 3+ GBps SSD. Theres no way an hdd can load neketaka in any reasonable amount of time.

Tbh Poe2 is the most poorly optimized game I have ever played. Its just pure shit. Sucks that the rpg mechanics are so good so I keep playing it.

Yeah well some heavy maps take bit longer, but most of them load in 10-15 seconds. And its actually completely technically possible.

Are you sure you're talking about pillars of eternity 2? Sounds like you might've confused the game with path of exile?

Pillars of eternity 2 yes. I bought it on day 1 lol. It depends on hdd and system setup too though.

I dont believe any medium sized areas can load within 5s on an HDD. I just dont believe that sorry.

iirc I never said 5

[harcha]

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A factor 10 in speed is kinda interesting. If you go from 50 seconds to 5 seconds loading time that's great. Going from 1 to 0.1 is still nice but you won't really notice, and going from 0.1 to 0.01 is just kinda irrelevant. Something to keep in mind.

For example I appreciate that my pc boots up in a couple of seconds. Much faster than that is cool, but really not that big of a deal. If it boots up a game in 1 second or 5 seconds doesn't really matter to me. You do it one time and then you're just playing the game. But I also played some pillars of eternity 2 on an HDD and poe2 is a horrificly poorly optimized game with tons and tons of loading screens ingame. Having an SSD improved the experience a lot and even then I'd appreciate having an even faster SSD.

I played Poe2 on hdd and I din't remember having loading screens more than 10 secs tbh

Thats gotta be false. Poe2 has loading times of multiple seconds for large areas on my 3+ GBps SSD. Theres no way an hdd can load neketaka in any reasonable amount of time.

Tbh Poe2 is the most poorly optimized game I have ever played. Its just pure shit. Sucks that the rpg mechanics are so good so I keep playing it.

Yeah well some heavy maps take bit longer, but most of them load in 10-15 seconds. And its actually completely technically possible.

Are you sure you're talking about pillars of eternity 2? Sounds like you might've confused the game with path of exile?

Pillars of eternity 2 yes. I bought it on day 1 lol. It depends on hdd and system setup too though.

I dont believe any medium sized areas can load within 5s on an HDD. I just dont believe that sorry.

it's possible to get stuff load fast from HDD, this was done on some PS4/XBone games. You pack all of the assets of each level in a single large file. This means that repeating assets will be packed multiple times because they are in multiple levels. This way when the level is loaded the HDD can just do 1 large file read instead of many small ones. The downside is that your videogame is now very bloated.
I haven't heard of this being done on any PC releases tho.

[Dolan]

One of the biggest laptop makers in the world, Acer, has said the worldwide global chip shortage will continue to have a “severe” impact on its production capabilities until at least the first or second quarter of next year.

The shortage of semi-conductors across the globe has resulted in supply issues for everything from computers, phones and gaming consoles to new cars.

Last week Acer announced a new series of gaming laptops, notebooks, and Chromebooks, due to be on shelves starting in the second half of this year, despite Acer’s co-chief operating officer Tiffany Huang telling Guardian Australia the company was struggling to source enough chips for its products.

“It will continue to be slow until the first quarter or second quarter of next year,” she said, adding that the pandemic had been fuelling the shortage with so many people working from home. “We have a severe shortage, and it’s not simply just to make sure every family has a device to use, every person has to have a device for working or education.

Apparently the main cause of the chip shortage is an increasing number of people working from home, who needed to buy more mobile computers for work/education. So it's not mainly caused by scalpers or miners, though those might have had a bigger impact in the niche market of graphics cards than in the general PC market.

[harcha]

so i need to find more videocards to flip

[Dolan]

You're up against some stiff competition with a lot of cash

[harcha]

I'm up against how informed people selling their old cards are. I have found 3 good listings in FB marketplace that I could flip. One of them hasn't even seen my messages unfortunately.

[gibson]

You're up against some stiff competition with a lot of cash

And most importantly bots

[pecelot]

Hey, sorry in advance if it's an inappropriate place to ask for such advice.
I'm looking for an SSD drive (ideally ~500 GB) for my laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 100-15IBD, but I'm not sure which would fit in. I haven't learned much while searching for an answer on the Internet, I only stumbled upon some drives with 128 GB of space. Could you guys help me identify what I should be looking for in the offers?

[Dolan]

@pecelot
It probably has a 2.5-inch, 9.5 mm (7mm compatible) HDD, so look for a SATA SSD drive of 2.5 inch.
For more details on the maximum supported SATA version, maybe install HWiNFO64 and check which motherboard chipset you have, then look for what kind of SATA it supports.
If you never opened a laptop, maybe it's a better idea to go to a service to install it for you. You need to remove the keyboard, unscrew some things in it, before you get to the bay that holds the HDD.

[harcha]

Yeah from this video it seems like your laptop has a 2.5 inch bay, these usually are 9.5 mm thick. 9.5 is the typical thickness of the slim laptop HDDs, but this means that 7 mm SATA SSDs will also fit right in that slot.

You should be fine with any 2.5 inch SSD you find, but if you're worried about buying the right one, that you can post in here for verification.

[pecelot]

thanks! I'll check it out and get back to you if needed
the idea was to buy the drive independently and then leave it up to servicemen to set it up and make it work

[harcha]

Looking further you can find the hardware manual from Lenovo. This confirms that the 2.5 inch slot is indeed 9.5 mm, but this doesn't matter as 2.5 inch SSDs are 7 mm anyway.

What is insightful, though, is that you also have an optical disk bay. One hack that people often do is replace the ODD with an adapter for sata devices, allowing you to replace the often unused optical drive with a secondary drive. This means that you can put 2 HDD/SSDs (or a combination HDD + SSD) in your laptop if you don't want the ODD. However beware that thickness is important for these adapters - I have bought adapter of the greater thickness and it didn't fit in my laptop, so I had to find another one. Wasn't a big deal as these things are cheap.

[Dolan]

My new router has arrived.
It's the size of a pack of cards and can do gigabyte.

[pecelot]

Alright, thanks for the additional info.

I've found two that seem suitable: Kingston 480GB 2,5" SATA SSD A400 (7x69,9x100 [mm]) and Crucial 480GB 2,5" SATA SSD BX500 (7x70x100 [mm]). Do you think they would work?

I also saw another Crucial SSD with a 7x9.5 [mm] adapter attached, but I don't think getting rid of the optical disc drive would be necessary. I don't use that much disc space (currently <250 GB) and I still have a couple of games on CDs, including AoE3

[harcha]

Yes, any of those 2.5" SATA SSDs will fit. Keep in mind that (as disassembly video suggests) replacing the drive will be tedious as opening back panel probably requires removing keyboard to access screws. Also you will have to install windows on the new SSD and somehow transfer any desired old files from the removed HDD.

9.5 mm ODD adapter probably wouldn't fit as a replacement for 9.0 mm ODD.

[pecelot]

Alright, thanks again. I've already taken the keyboard off in the past and seen how to open the back panel, but like I said, the plan is to buy the drive and leave it to specialists to put the new one in place and integrate it with everything else.

[pecelot]

(Sorry for double posting).

Out of these two:

Kingston 480GB 2,5" SATA SSD A400 (7x69,9x100 [mm]) and Crucial 480GB 2,5" SATA SSD BX500 (7x70x100 [mm]).

is one more preferable than the other? They seem to have the same specs, they also cost the same in the shop I'm buying them from. Is one company more reliable than the other?

[harcha]

differences are small, but you can try looking up reviews or comparisons of some sort. or perhaps select which ever one has better warranty in your area, cheaper, faster to ship, etc.