Israeli-Palestinian conflict

[princeofcarthage]

@Dolan and what you makes you think Iran will actually invade to defend Hamas? If Hamas falls Iran will setup another proxy and so on and so on. But atleast if Israel annexes the areas, the areas themselves will have peace, largely in thanks to Iron Dome.

[Dsy]

I think you should make middle east thread for discussing this.

[Dolan]

Yeh, the thread should be split off from here:
viewtopic.php?f=315&t=21584&start=900#p536686

It should be a new, separate thread on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

[Horsemen]

> Implying Europe isn’t part of the Middle East by now.

[Dsy]

> Or Middle East part of Europe.

[edeholland]

Yeh, the thread should be split off from here:
viewtopic.php?f=315&t=21584&start=900#p536686

It should be a new, separate thread on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Dunn

[InsectPoison]

@princeofcarthage by your own logic there was nothing wrong with the Brits controlling India for over 200 years because we beat you militarily? Damn should never have given you independence.

[gibson]

[n0el]

[harcha]

A state participating in terror attacks and memeing about it. What a time to be alive. Glad I'm not born in the wrong place of the world.

[harcha]

oh boy the irony

[princeofcarthage]

@princeofcarthage by your own logic there was nothing wrong with the Brits controlling India for over 200 years because we beat you militarily? Damn should never have given you independence.

Except you didn't actually manage to beat militarily, at least not in the traditional sense. It was a very clever game of deception and politics. If not for Indian army you would have never won WW1 or WW2. You managed to control India cuz of stupidity of Indian people/army. Without hundreds of thousands, even millions at few points, Indian soldiers you would have never held the country even for a year. It was an excellent game of divide and rule. You only left India after WW2 cuz it was impossible to hold at the time. Home UK was shattered and you simply had no resources to preserve UK and at the same time control India, at that point Indian army was also not in your control. If you had not left, it would have been WW 3, with India declaring Independence and US and USSR on opposite spheres. British never managed to be in majority in India at any point.

[princeofcarthage]

A state participating in terror attacks and memeing about it. What a time to be alive. Glad I'm not born in the wrong place of the world.

What happened decades ago is different issue, but how are these terror attacks? They are literally defending themselves. 3000 rockets have been fired over Israel. Also they are not memeing, you should open the thread and read further comments.

[harcha]

A state participating in terror attacks and memeing about it. What a time to be alive. Glad I'm not born in the wrong place of the world.

What happened decades ago is different issue, but how are these terror attacks? They are literally defending themselves. 3000 rockets have been fired over Israel. Also they are not memeing, you should open the thread and read further comments.

It's not defense when you take peoples land, homes and lives. It's occupation and settler terror.

[princeofcarthage]

A state participating in terror attacks and memeing about it. What a time to be alive. Glad I'm not born in the wrong place of the world.

What happened decades ago is different issue, but how are these terror attacks? They are literally defending themselves. 3000 rockets have been fired over Israel. Also they are not memeing, you should open the thread and read further comments.

It's not defense when you take peoples land, homes and lives. It's occupation and settler terror.

Fair

[gibson]

People who are saying that Israel is largely in the wrong aren't saying that Palestine is blameless btw. But the fact is Israel has gotten away with a lot that they probably shouldn't have over the past 60 years due to backing by much larger more powerful countries.

[scarm]

The question of guilt all aside, how do you guys expect Israel to act? What would 'solve' the situation in your opinion?

[occamslightsaber]

Except you didn't actually manage to beat militarily, at least not in the traditional sense. It was a very clever game of deception and politics.

So... war?

[InsectPoison]

Ignore PrinceofShitage, it’s best not to give him any attention. Half the time he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[princeofcarthage]

Yes we have 3 whole of years of history specifically dedicated to Indian history of which 1 and half year is entirely dedicated to British colonization and I am not aware of my country's history. Great. Please tell me.

[duckzilla]

Ignore PrinceofShitage, it’s best not to give him any attention. Half the time he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

In this specific case, he is quite correct though. It's not really like the UK can claim to have conquered India in a big 1vs1. It was rather a combination of money, diplomacy, and small-scale warfare.

There is a nice quote of Bismarck on the quality of the UK army: "Should the British invade, I will call the police and have all of them arrested!"

[n0el]

The question of guilt all aside, how do you guys expect Israel to act? What would 'solve' the situation in your opinion?

It is very simple, stop apartheid and stop the settler endeavor.

[Goodspeed]

Equal rights for everyone seems like a no brainer start

[princeofcarthage]

The question of guilt all aside, how do you guys expect Israel to act? What would 'solve' the situation in your opinion?

Invade G and end war once for all.

[Horsemen]

Yes we have 3 whole of years of history specifically dedicated to Indian history of which 1 and half year is entirely dedicated to British colonization and I am not aware of my country's history. Great. Please tell me.

And yet you speak English. Curious!