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fightinfrenchman wrote: ↑
26 May 2022, 22:02
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How is this not already factored into the model
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duckzilla wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 06:38
chris1089 wrote: ↑
26 May 2022, 06:59
The idea that this is a mental health issue is ridiculous. The problem isn't mental health, it's the inherent evil in the human heart. Hence stricter gun control laws also won't solve the problem. The only thing that ultimately will is Jesus' return.
I'm not sure whether this is sarcasm or the usual religion-inspired cynicism.

For the record: it is exactly people uttering this kind of statement who are one of the major problems to societal progress in the US (and elsewhere). The "inherent evil in the human heart" is such a laughably bad argument. It entirely neglects the fact that school shootings only happen under very specific conditions (mental health problems + access to guns being obvious drivers) and rules out the idea that a society could begin to care for its weakest members in order to avoid massacres like this. On the contrary, the idea of an inherent evil human nature allows you to effectively abandon the weakest members of society as you can't change their "evil" anyway. Truly a horrific belief system with disastrous societal consequences.

In my opinion, there are many things that could be done to avoid shootings happening on the current scale. A simple one would be to strictly outlaw possession of firearms for anyone younger than 30 years. You might have noticed that ~80% of mass shootings (be it at schools or elsewhere) are carried out by frustrated young men. Many shootings could be prevented by allowing people to actually grow up and fully develop their personality. Another measure, much more complicated and depending on the local context, would be to systematically look and care more for adolescents whose social environment is bad/deteriorates.
It doesn't really have to be a case of mental health issues. People accumulate grudges and snap without necessarily having a diagnosable mental problem. For example, if you go slight someone from a culture where honour is something that is fiercely defended, you risk getting into trouble.
Terrorists go on killing sprees with ideological motives. Lone killers go on a killing spree based on some kind of personal ideology, that probably involves a perception that their life has been devalued and degraded, so they reflect that back onto society often on targets that are random and had nothing to do with whatever caused them distress.
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princeofcarthage wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 07:00
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How is this not already factored into the model
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harcha wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 08:29
princeofcarthage wrote: ↑
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Apparently the police actually talked to the shooter before they entered the building. Then they stood outside and didn't do anything for an hour. Minus arresting parents that wanted something to be done. The police force isn't even the issue of the topic and they're huge fucking pussy cowards.
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They didn't do nothing, they ran in, grabbed their kids, and ran back out.
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Stuff like this just baffles me. There should be a federal reform for both the police and gun laws. There needs to be accountability for the police officers that literally stood by and let children die. Mind you, American police forced are armed to the teeth with weapons of war (that taxpayers pay for).

It is just utterly incomprehensible.

The NRA needs to be disolved for simply put aside. They shouldn't have any legislative sway in this country.
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Cometk wrote: ↑
26 May 2022, 06:20
iNcog wrote: ↑
25 May 2022, 23:30
It is literally so impossible to stop these.

Feeling bad for the poor little elementary kids that had to die in the name of the second amendment.

For those unaware, we had a school shooting in Texas a few days ago resulting in the passing of almost 20 children.

There was also a racially motivated terror attack on a store in Buffalo last week or so.

Taking it out of the USA politics thread to focus on this exact issue.
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Tbf the UK had one bad school shooting in 1996 and since has had none. All it took was removing all legal handguns in the country.
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From a Dailymail article:

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Basically the classic story of the bullied kid turning into school shooter because he got taunted for looking gay. Then he became more aggressive, probably in an attempt to gain more respect. But he was doing it in an autistic way, lashing out at people, which made his work colleagues perceive him as hostile and weird, rather than assertive. And eventually this estranged him even more from others than actually make him gain any respect.

There was another piece of news that said 2 kids in the same school were arrested four years ago for planning a shooting when they'd grow up and talked about feeling 'like a God' when holding a gun and getting revenge on schoolmates who slighted them.
Not sure if this kid was among those two, but if he was, then the police really let this slip through.
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i personally think it makes a ton of sense that you have to be 21 to buy a handgun but you can by an AR15 at 18.
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TBH this is going to get worse after abortion is banned
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n0el wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 14:28
i personally think it makes a ton of sense that you have to be 21 to buy a handgun but you can by an AR15 at 18.
Lol really?

I had no idea. I mean you have to be 21 just to get a beer lmao.

Are civilian AR15s of the same calibre and power as military weapons? I assume that the only difference is semi automatic vs fully automatic, if I am unmistaken
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iNcog wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 18:42
n0el wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 14:28
i personally think it makes a ton of sense that you have to be 21 to buy a handgun but you can by an AR15 at 18.
Lol really?

I had no idea. I mean you have to be 21 just to get a beer lmao.

Are civilian AR15s of the same calibre and power as military weapons? I assume that the only difference is semi automatic vs fully automatic, if I am unmistaken
He was sarcastic, I think
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fightinfrenchman wrote: ↑
26 May 2022, 20:06
@lejend Does God think guns are good
Yes, and not just guns but arms in general.
Dolan wrote: ↑
26 May 2022, 20:21
God gave guns to the American people to defend themselves from the government.
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lejend wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 21:42
fightinfrenchman wrote: ↑
26 May 2022, 20:06
@lejend Does God think guns are good
Yes, and not just guns but arms in general.
What about forcing women to have their rapist's baby, is that something God thinks is good
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fightinfrenchman wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 21:44
lejend wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 21:42
fightinfrenchman wrote: ↑
26 May 2022, 20:06
@lejend Does God think guns are good
Yes, and not just guns but arms in general.
What about forcing women to have their rapist's baby, is that something God thinks is good
God is absolutely against us murdering babies for the crimes of their parents.
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fightinfrenchman wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 21:44
lejend wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 21:42
fightinfrenchman wrote: ↑
26 May 2022, 20:06
@lejend Does God think guns are good
Yes, and not just guns but arms in general.
What about forcing women to have their rapist's baby, is that something God thinks is good
Why did god create rapists in first place?
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iNcog wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 18:42
n0el wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 14:28
i personally think it makes a ton of sense that you have to be 21 to buy a handgun but you can by an AR15 at 18.
Lol really?

I had no idea. I mean you have to be 21 just to get a beer lmao.

Are civilian AR15s of the same calibre and power as military weapons? I assume that the only difference is semi automatic vs fully automatic, if I am unmistaken
Yes. I believe that only handguns are regulated in a federal level so it’s up to states to set ages for rifle purchases. In 2021 Texas changed the law to allow 18 year olds to buy ARs and so the Texas shooter was able to do so legally. Commercial AR15s are the same caliber rifles but are not fully automatic like some military ARs.
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princeofcarthage wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 21:57
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What about forcing women to have their rapist's baby, is that something God thinks is good
Why did god create rapists in first place?
I don't think god is real so I can't answer that
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lejend wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 21:46
fightinfrenchman wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 21:44
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What about forcing women to have their rapist's baby, is that something God thinks is good
God is absolutely against us murdering babies for the crimes of their parents.
Pro forced birth and pro mass shooting. Really psycho shit
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lejend wrote: ↑
27 May 2022, 21:46
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What about forcing women to have their rapist's baby, is that something God thinks is good
God is absolutely against us murdering babies for the crimes of their parents.
it's only your god who is against abortion. he'll probably catch up with the other guys eventually
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Turns out all American problems are rooted in the existence of Americans. Many other countries have lenient laws regarding the possession of weapons by civilians. But those countries do not have The American.
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