England maybe leave EU june 23.

[spanky4ever]

Mind you - this is maybe the last upset. Get a grip UK!

[Dolan]

The only thing I don't get is why you are against Trump in the USA, but are applauding the Trumps in europe...

Because the Trumps in Europe aren't rich. The rich don't bother trying to get themselves elected in Europe, like in the USA.

She's got beef with: corporations, big capital, euro-bureaucrats (even though she's not in the EU).

[spanky4ever]

@Umeu

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You make the comparison with trump, and ask me why I don't see it, but I do see it, thats why I asked you that question about trump before. The only thing I don't get is why you are against Trump in the USA, but are applauding the Trumps in europe...

I think Trump is a fraud that use the US ppl misfortune and inequality. It can root for hate. I never applauded Trump - but I gave an explanations how he got so popular. Its the same mechanism that got Hitler to power. I only explained he mechanism

[spanky4ever]

EU has to take 3 steps down IMO - the united state of EU is not the peoples choise

[Mvp618]

Another dumb ass liberal comparing Trump to Hitler. You do not live in either Britain or America so your opinions on these political matters do not matter.

[spanky4ever]

The only thing I don't get is why you are against Trump in the USA, but are applauding the Trumps in europe...

Because the Trumps in Europe aren't rich. The rich don't bother trying to get themselves elected in Europe, like in the USA.

She's got beef with: corporations, big capital, euro-bureaucrats (even though she's not in the EU).

PLEACE dont be a fraud! who has the resouses to wisper in the ear of the "by proxy elected" in EU. I only ask you to be honest @Dolan

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you have seen this close up. I can tell you its not the ppl!

[Dolan]

You mean lobbyists? You have the choice to listen to them or not. I've met with lots of lobbyists trying to sell me their point of view. Some were from Big Pharma. I listened to them carefully, then I told them they were not aware of some bigger issues. Then I started explaining the bigger issues to them. They all left very impressed and decided they needed to do something about these bigger issues. And so I become a lobbyist withouth even trying to be one, by persuading lobbyists their cause was really minor and they needed to heed bigger issues.

Then we all went and ate some pizza at the local restaurant. Everyone paid for their own pizza.

[Le Dragon]

@Umeu

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this Brexit was by the working class! London and the finance/bank industry are crying their heart out

many of the people who voted out were either retired or unemployed.

the majority of those who were employed part-time or full-time voted in.

so much for 'working' class.

[spanky4ever]

@Umeu

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this Brexit was by the working class! London and the finance/bank industry are crying their heart out

many of the people who voted out were either retired or unemployed.

the majority of those who were employed part-time or full-time voted in.

so much for 'working' class.

show us your source pls

[deleted_user0]

Ah but those people worked in UK around 1900, you know, the golden era of Big Capitalism, so they know their stuff. They didn't revolt then, but surely they are going to man the foxholes for this revolution!

[HeatitUP_]

Simply support Trump for the leader of Earth if you guys want to win again. Trump will build a huge space wall encase aliens decide to invade!

[spanky4ever]

You mean lobbyists? You have the choice to listen to them or not. I've met with lots of lobbyists trying to sell me their point of view. Some were from Big Pharma. I listened to them carefully, then I told them they were not aware of some bigger issues. Then I started explaining the bigger issues to them. They all left very impressed and decided they needed to do something about these bigger issues. And so I become a lobbyist withouth even trying to be one, by persuading lobbyists their cause was really minor and they needed to heed bigger issues.

Then we all went and ate some pizza at the local restaurant. Everyone paid for their own pizza.

I will tell a terror story of the big pharma and big Tobacco overturning "common sense" and ppl interest - go check out the TPD - nobody ever wanted this - but big Pharma did - and big Tobacco wanted it - so they got IT.

This shenanigans also had something to tip the vote to NEY! Millions of vapors in UK - In your face big corp and the ones that listens to your venomous wisper

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I will tell a terror story of the big pharma and big Tobacco overturning "common sense" and ppl interest - go check out the TPD - nobody ever wanted this - but big Pharma did - and big Tobacco wanted it - so they got IT.

This shenanigans also had something to tip the vote to NEY!

show us your source.

[spanky4ever]

@Umeu

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what do you want me to reveal? the deal or the result, or the opposition?

[spanky4ever]

[video]https://youtu.be/aQckjBjxCls[/video] this cover most of it -the UK not wanting it , the millions of vapers not wanting it. The only wanting it is the ones being threatened by it economically - BIG PHARMA and BIG TOBACCO.

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@Umeu

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what do you want me to reveal? the deal or the result, or the opposition?

I want you to list your source that backs up the above claim that such shenanigans had anything to do with people voting Brexit...

[spanky4ever]

2.8 millions of quitting smoke - and now vaping are a big vote NEY to be reckoned with. This maybe tipped the scale for BREXIT. And the Eu did lean to an unjust pharma and tobacco.

[deleted_user0]

I'm asking for your source, not a repeat of your opinion. Please show the causation or even a correlation between people's despise for big Tobacco and their vote for Brexit.

[spanky4ever]

I'm asking for your source, not a repeat of your opinion.

What source? I ask again? This has been a long way - a fight with EU - and nobody listening.

[deleted_user0]

The source that you are basing these claims on obviously. The one I guess you don't have... And since you are neither an inhabitant of the UK, nor do you have any source that is backing up what you are saying, I quite wonder what evidence you have to found your claims upon.

[Le Dragon]

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@Umeu

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this Brexit was by the working class! London and the finance/bank industry are crying their heart out

many of the people who voted out were either retired or unemployed.

the majority of those who were employed part-time or full-time voted in.

so much for 'working' class.

show us your source pls

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/ho ... d-and-why/

basically the closest thing we have to an exit poll for this referendum.

[Le Dragon]

This image pisses me off more than the one about the age groups:



Also there are people who would actually contemplate having Iain Duncan Smith as PM. Wtffffffffff

[spanky4ever]

The source that you are basing these claims on obviously. The one I guess you don't have... And since you are neither an inhabitant of the UK, nor do you have any source that is backing up what you are saying, I quite wonder what evidence you have to found your claims upon.

I am speculating -. but even so - there is a big upset among vapers - and they are 2.8 millions in UK alone - I guess they had a stake in it - very much so.
If you are asking about the process of the TBD - I can tell you that one as well - not a democratic one

[spanky4ever]

The source that you are basing these claims on obviously. The one I guess you don't have... And since you are neither an inhabitant of the UK, nor do you have any source that is backing up what you are saying, I quite wonder what evidence you have to found your claims upon.

I am speculating -. but even so - there is a big upset among vapers - and they are 2.8 millions in UK alone - I guess they had a stake in it - very much so.
If you are asking about the process of the TBD - I can tell you that one as well - not a democratic one :idea Pharma and Tobacco lobbyist wisper to you - and not the ones quitting sigs.

[Dolan]

So now basically there are a couple of cleavages in the UK:

- between young and old
- between city dwellers and rural inhabitants
- between England/Wales and Scotland/Northern Ireland
- between politically knowledgeable individuals and laymen
- between Londoners and the rest of the UK
- between the frustrated/unemployed/nationalist and the employed/well-adjusted/moderate

Oh yeah.. they're going to be totally fine.