chris1089 wrote:They are describing all the macro molecules found withing 'modern' cells preforming by chance in the same area and bumping into each other to form a cell with no steps in between, rather than criticising any legitimate hypotheses involving sequential steps that exist.
Such as. How do you say you we got from A-Z without God?
There are scientific hypotheses that exist, none of them have to do with what is described in the video. It's a bad video, sorry. I'm not going to waste hours researching and trying to explain these to you because I know the game you are playing. I can explain these and you will point out that I can't explain how this or that worked out and therefore because there are gaps in understanding it's impossible and you must be right without justification. If you are actually interested in the origins of life you will do the research yourself, but you are just interested in being right. Also your weird formatting makes it difficult to quote and reply to you.
chris1089 wrote:That is simply not historically accurate, there are plenty of cultures who's creation myths don't involve a supreme god creating the universe. You can look it up, this is off topic. As well polytheism was the most common belief for thousands of years before so clearly polytheism must be the default and is therefore true until proven otherwise!Yes, the existence of God is already on the human mind. This is the "is there a God?" thread not the "Which God is there thread?" The suchness of many people believing in a thing is the same as an individual believing in that thing, repetition does not make truth so I am not impressed by the big number, I've seen bigger numbers before. And why are you demanding that I must explain what I just said we don't have a proven explanation for! Try to explain how your god created the universe.
I demand you explain as it is a flaw in your position that God doesn't exist - how did the world get here (assuming you believe it had a beginning. If otherwise we can discuss that.) I say "And God said, “Let there be light,”" This doesn't require more explanation, as I have already stated, due to God not being subject to our space-time continuum and being supernatural. He can use methods that can't be observed in our universe or explained using our science.
Sorry, the type of God that you are talking about which is an all powerful and knowing perfect being is not the same type of god described by many religions, as well the creation myths of the two most populous cultures in the world (Hindus and Chinese) are not based on a god creating the universe, and it is irrelevant anyways.
Also I never put forth an argument that god doesn't exist or mention the origins of the universe, I criticized that video about abiogenesis, but instead of defending it you want more. You want to attack the atheists and prove to yourself how certain you are that you are right and that the other things that you associate with your beliefs are too. I am not emotionally invested in whether or not god exists It's a lot easier to have discussions when you're not obsessed with being right. You cannot simply define something into existence. You are claiming that it is impossible life to exist or for the universe to exist without divine intervention, but you do not have enough knowledge of the universe or how reality functions fundamentally to make that claim, no one has enough knowledge to make that claim. Why does the cause of the universe need to be personified as an intelligent being acting deliberately rather than just 'something outside time and space'? Why do you think that the universe as we know it is the be all and end all of physical reality? I prefer explanations that are simple. You want to be right for free while demanding the highest standard of evidence from anyone who disagrees.
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