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Context: the new US attorney wants to restart the War on Drugs policy in the US.

From a speech:
I realize this may be an unfashionable belief in a time of growing tolerance of drug use. But too many lives are at stake to worry about being fashionable. I reject the idea that America will be a better place if marijuana is sold in every corner store. And I am astonished to hear people suggest that we can solve our heroin crisis by legalizing marijuana – so people can trade one life-wrecking dependency for another that’s only slightly less awful. Our nation needs to say clearly once again that using drugs will destroy your life.

He calls marijuana traffickers criminal gangs and vows to destroy them:
“I returned from the border last week and they told me that quite a number of the people they arrest are hauling marijuana across the border.”
“If you are a gang member, we will find you,” he said. “We will devastate your networks. We will starve your revenue sources, deplete your ranks, and seize your profits. We will not concede a single block or a street corner to your vicious tactics.”

US Attorney General Jeff Sessions labelled cannabis "only slightly less awful" than heroin.

"We will enforce our laws and put bad men behind bars," he said in a recent speech in Richmond, Virginia.

"We will fight the scourge of drug abuse."

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It's not drug. Didn't get addicted at all.
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Well to be fair the gangs behind weed traffic are probably pretty much criminal. But saying that anyone smoking weed is "bad" is pretty much 8 yo level (or Mr. Mackey level, but oh wait he's actually talking to 8 yo kids). Not like I'm surprised though, after all it's the USA. Anyone being able to go out with a gun in the streets is something normal, but smoking weed or getting blown when you're president is a crime. And well they elected Trump didn't they
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Kaiserklein wrote:Well to be fair the gangs behind weed traffic are probably pretty much criminal. But saying that anyone smoking weed is "bad" is pretty much 8 yo level (or Mr. Mackey level, but oh wait he's actually talking to 8 yo kids). Not like I'm surprised though, after all it's the USA. Anyone being able to go out with a gun in the streets is something normal, but smoking weed or getting blown when you're president is a crime. And well they elected Trump didn't they


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Be it for sex or for lying, it's still much less important than carrying guns in the street.

kami_ryu wrote:If you think that weed is fine then so is my gun-toting.

What is not fine with weed ? If you mean all the crime and stuff behind it I stop you directly, you just had the same stuff with alcohol during the prohibition. Weed itself isn't such a bad thing, if you don't abuse it and if you use it responsibly. inb4 "guns themselves aren't such a bad thing, if you don't abuse it and if you use it responsibly" => weed can hurt yourself but not other people, unlike guns, so it's not comparable. I can't really see any drawback to make weed legal. You can already see it where it's legalized anyway
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Kaiserklein wrote:Well to be fair the gangs behind weed traffic are probably pretty much criminal.
Drug-trafficking gangs wouldn't exist if drugs were freely available, though - would they?
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@QueenOfdestiny stop getting high every day
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kami_ryu wrote:If your faith in your fellow citizen is so low that you need laws to keep them "safe" rather than relying on their own common sense, then you're going to live in a bad society. I know plenty of people with concealed carries who have guns in their cars. They're perfectly fine and normal people.
I think it's mostly due to the fact that it is so contrary to what we (at least in most of Europe) have been taught since infancy, and also human errenous statistical intuition. The only times we see or hear about guns is regarding police, or violent crime; the correlation leaves a negative impact on our perception of guns. I was against the right to own guns myself at one point, actually. It is not trivial to let go of something that is so ingrained into your view of reality, however wrong it might be.
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Also French people shouldn't be making fun of America for electing Trump when they're about to elect Le Pen.
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_NT_sven wrote:It's not drug. Didn't get addicted at all.

Then why'd you use it? People dont do drugs to get addicted, they do drugs to "feel good."
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noissance wrote:
_NT_sven wrote:It's not drug. Didn't get addicted at all.

Then why'd you use it? People dont do drugs to get addicted, they do drugs to "feel good."


Well I am not sure what you actually mean.
For me that's just an experience of a cultural thing in a foreign country as an international guy I think.
But weed is quite different from real drugs imo. If who are behind this trade are still criminals even it is legal, I don't think I will take it anymore.
If that is not the case, why not just legalize it? Weed itself is nothing harmful.. It's true that many people begin with weed and continue to get real drugs and ruin their life, but that's just their own fault isn't it?
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_NT_sven wrote:It's true that many people begin with weed and continue to get real drugs and ruin their life
They begin with water before they try weed, actually.
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Gendarme wrote:
_NT_sven wrote:It's true that many people begin with weed and continue to get real drugs and ruin their life
They begin with water before they try weed, actually.
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Gendarme wrote:
_NT_sven wrote:It's true that many people begin with weed and continue to get real drugs and ruin their life
They begin with water before they try weed, actually.


This is called infinite regression lol.
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There is no indication that enforcement priorities will change. Dealers will be the main targets, not regular users. However in some cases the line between users and dealers is quite blurred.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:Also French people shouldn't be making fun of America for electing Trump when they're about to elect Le Pen.

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That's what the polls said :roll:
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@_NT_sven you fine sir should sit like a half hour down at at coffeeshop and see the succes of Dutch policies yourself... (most guests junked up and buy daily which is f*cked).

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_NT_sven wrote:It's not drug. Didn't get addicted at all.

The definition of drug is not if it makes you addicted or not, but if it causes any biochemical changes in the body.
Kaiserklein wrote:I can't really see any drawback to make weed legal.
_NT_sven wrote:[...] why not just legalize it? Weed itself is nothing harmful..

While studies and researches on weed related health problems are still lacking, it can be harmful by causing, mainly, cardiac diseases, and also those reversible psychological effects that can even cause suicidal thought on people. I just don't understand the logic of why tobacco is legalized and marijuana is not though...

Imo, the reason why drug legalization needs to be the result of a well-studied, revised and thought-out decision is not in the so-called "drug war" but in the fact that it is quite costly for countries where health insurance is free, like Brazil or UK (Not applying so much to the US therefore). It is really annoying to know that part of the taxes you pay are being used just to try to save someone who spent his life self-destructing with cigarettes or alcohol.

So I think that drugs legalization requires some diseases to be excluded from the free Health care.

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