Bernie Sanders next president of USA
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Churchill wanted to invade Soviet shortly after WWII. There is just no way that Soviet could have expand to more countries of Europe. If they had tried - Churchill would have gotten Roosevelt to go along with his plan "Operation unthinkable" to destroy the "Communist Red Hazard"!!
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Le Dragon wrote:iNcog wrote:jesus christ you didn't even read my post, yet again
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When I say "saved Europe's ass", I meant, "who are we supposed to thank that we weren't a part of the fucking soviet union" ?
damn it, rofl
That's impossible to say. We don't know how far the Red Army would have advanced, or whether the Allies could have invaded France without the Americans.
That's true, but it's a very safe assumption that the Soviets would have claimed Germany, Italy and parts of France. My personal guess is that they would have taken all of mainland Europe unless the British occupied it (which the British would have been unlikely to manage without major help from the U.S Army), and possibly even Scandinavia (less likely given the developments in Finland throughout and after the war).
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Stalin alone couldn't have done shit. That's why it took both the USA and USSR to defeat Hitler. If they didn't ally to defeat Hitler, Hitler would have won the entire Europe. He was about to conquer the UK, when the USA intervened.
He lost because the German army couldn't fight equally well on 2 fronts.
He lost because the German army couldn't fight equally well on 2 fronts.
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That's impossible to say. We don't know how far the Red Army would have advanced, or whether the Allies could have invaded France without the Americans.
That's true, but it's a very safe assumption that the Soviets would have claimed Germany, Italy and parts of France. My personal guess is that they would have taken all of mainland Europe unless the British occupied it (which the British would have been unlikely to manage without major help from the U.S Army), and possibly even Scandinavia (less likely given the developments in Finland throughout and after the war).
Bear in mind that the Soviets would also have been weaker without American aid.
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iNcog wrote:Le Dragon wrote:Show hidden quotes
That's impossible to say. We don't know how far the Red Army would have advanced, or whether the Allies could have invaded France without the Americans.
The end of the war was not a race to defeat Germany, the end of the war was a race between the USA and the USSR to get as much land as possible.
I'm not talking about defeating Germany, I'm talking about the USA saving our sorry asses from Soviet occupation.
Iron curtain, does that ring a bell?
did you even read my post wtf
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All I know is Hillary Clinton sucks and Donald Trump may be crazy but at least you know where he stands. Bernie should hijack the convention and pull an Abe Lincoln or FDR and steal the nomination. Democrats must know by now that Hillary will NEVER win the election. Bernie would be a great choice.
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Smyrna wrote:All I know is Hillary Clinton sucks and Donald Trump may be crazy but at least you know where he stands. Bernie should hijack the convention and pull an Abe Lincoln or FDR and steal the nomination. Democrats must know by now that Hillary will NEVER win the election. Bernie would be a great choice.
Tell us more on how to hijack a convention? Any presidency on that? How on earth would you think the super delegates would switch from Shillary to Sanders??
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Smyrna wrote:All I know is Hillary Clinton sucks and Donald Trump may be crazy but at least you know where he stands. Bernie should hijack the convention and pull an Abe Lincoln or FDR and steal the nomination. Democrats must know by now that Hillary will NEVER win the election. Bernie would be a great choice.
Trump is just a meme.
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Le Dragon wrote:zoom wrote:Show hidden quotes
That's true, but it's a very safe assumption that the Soviets would have claimed Germany, Italy and parts of France. My personal guess is that they would have taken all of mainland Europe unless the British occupied it (which the British would have been unlikely to manage without major help from the U.S Army), and possibly even Scandinavia (less likely given the developments in Finland throughout and after the war).
Bear in mind that the Soviets would also have been weaker without American aid.
They would have had the same American aid regardless of a U.S declaration of war, so that's irrelevant for this discussion.
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iNcog wrote:Germany lost the war in Stalingrad. After that, it was an industrial war which the USA and USSR alliance won with ease.
Keep in mind that the USA also pretty much single-handedly defeated Japan as well.
No matter how you look at it, the USA saved our butts in WWII. WWII directly triggered the Cold War and the Cold War had profound effects on the entire world, which we are still feeling today.
Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc. are pretty much the result of the proxy wars which took place during the Cold War. So blaming only the USA and hoping that they go into "decline" is just dumb as shit. It shows pretty bad ignorance of (quite recent) history.
Youre making it sound as if USA was the only one fighting but I think it were the allies including the canadians and the UK for a big part.
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Im not murican, what is the fifth ammendment even?
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Jerom wrote:iNcog wrote:Germany lost the war in Stalingrad. After that, it was an industrial war which the USA and USSR alliance won with ease.
Keep in mind that the USA also pretty much single-handedly defeated Japan as well.
No matter how you look at it, the USA saved our butts in WWII. WWII directly triggered the Cold War and the Cold War had profound effects on the entire world, which we are still feeling today.
Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc. are pretty much the result of the proxy wars which took place during the Cold War. So blaming only the USA and hoping that they go into "decline" is just dumb as shit. It shows pretty bad ignorance of (quite recent) history.
Youre making it sound as if USA was the only one fighting but I think it were the allies including the canadians and the UK for a big part.
And don't forget about the Dutch legion (Wiking)
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Anyway, nuancing isn't your forte, so I'll agree with you like I would with a 8 year old: violence is bad, don't do hard drugs and stay in school Benj98
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iwillspankyou wrote:Churchill wanted to invade Soviet shortly after WWII. There is just no way that Soviet could have expand to more countries of Europe. If they had tried - Churchill would have gotten Roosevelt to go along with his plan "Operation unthinkable" to destroy the "Communist Red Hazard"!!
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I have a question - any idea how come some Germans kinda expected to be re-armed by the Canadians in order to together head east and fight Stalin?
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Anyway, nuancing isn't your forte, so I'll agree with you like I would with a 8 year old: violence is bad, don't do hard drugs and stay in school Benj98
Anyway, nuancing isn't your forte, so I'll agree with you like I would with a 8 year old: violence is bad, don't do hard drugs and stay in school Benj98
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A number of people in the middle east actually want this, for me personally it would be satisfying just because of the lesson in humility Americans would get. But hey there's a reason I said "part of me". It's a small part, for the record. The same part that would like to see some kind of a zombie outbreak just for the entertainment value.iNcog wrote:No idea why anyone in the world would want the fucking United States of America to crumble.
Who the fuck cares? How is this or the rest of your post in any way relevant in this context?Who the fuck saved Europe's ass in the second world war?
It's fun to see how defensive you get about America, it's like your mutual love for firearms has created an imaginary bond. Or perhaps it's the fact that French people, much like Americans, are well-known stereotypes on the internet. In any case lighten up, nobody here would actually like to see the US crumble. We would all go down with it, for one.So let's not spout dumb shit about the USA falling being nice. Stop being naive and learn about history. The reason "history repeats itself" is even a thing is because too many people are entitled dumbfucks who think that history is a hobby or something.
The reason that we aren't all russia's bitch is because of the USA. cold war ended like 30 years ago, writing it off as old history is tremendously arrogant and ignorant
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I like trolling as much as the next guy but Trump has been playing his joke on long enough! It seems that a large portion of the North American people love his policy positions and what he has to say. I guess Donald Trump is the best at selling on people's feelings and emotions.
Hillary Clinton tries so hard to keep her image up but her unfavorable ratings are extremely high. Hillary is talking about how it's great that she will be the first female president of the United States which shouldn't be a factor at all when someone votes but apparently that talking point is working for her. I don't feel safe trusting this idiot bitch with sensitive government information because she is STILL being investigated for being careless with keeping classified information secure.
I'm voting for Gary Johnson (3rd party candidate) even though he has no chance of winning.
Hillary Clinton tries so hard to keep her image up but her unfavorable ratings are extremely high. Hillary is talking about how it's great that she will be the first female president of the United States which shouldn't be a factor at all when someone votes but apparently that talking point is working for her. I don't feel safe trusting this idiot bitch with sensitive government information because she is STILL being investigated for being careless with keeping classified information secure.
I'm voting for Gary Johnson (3rd party candidate) even though he has no chance of winning.
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iwillspankyou wrote:Smyrna wrote:All I know is Hillary Clinton sucks and Donald Trump may be crazy but at least you know where he stands. Bernie should hijack the convention and pull an Abe Lincoln or FDR and steal the nomination. Democrats must know by now that Hillary will NEVER win the election. Bernie would be a great choice.
Tell us more on how to hijack a convention? Any presidency on that? How on earth would you think the super delegates would switch from Shillary to Sanders??
Were you too busy making AOE strats to pay attention in American Government? The Super Delegates have to VOTE in the convention. Until the VOTE AT THE CONVENTION then nothing is set. That means even though on paper Hillary is winning by like 550-600+ delegates (btw, over 500 are SUPER) it is just marks on paper until the REAL vote in July. So, just as what occurred with Abe Lincoln, and FDR (arguably 2 of our best Presidents btw) the Super Delegates, by July, could realize how hopeless the Democrats chances are with Hillary Clinton and instead VOTE for Bernie Sanders which WOULD make him the Democratic presidential candidate and effectively REMOVE HIllary from the race, unless she ran on an independent ticket or something which would not be allowed to happen by the Dems. If even half the Super Delegates voted for Bernie he would get the nomination. Every day that passes I believe it is more a possibility as the Dems hold their behind door strat sessions.
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BTW- the same is true for Trump. Do not think the Republicans are not considering a move to put a candidate like Romney or something on the ticket in July and having the Super Dels get him the nominee instead of Trump. However- the difference is it will NEVER happen. That meme, Donald Trump, garnered more votes than any other primary in our nations history. If the Republicans tried to switch him for another candidate their would be a popular revolt. Hillary Clinton has nowhere near the kind of popular support as Trump and Bernie Sanders, as I said, is ONLY losing BECAUSE the VAST MAJORITY of Super Delegates votes Hillary BEFORE the majority of primaries EVEN HAPPENED. It means the Super Dels voted before the people and only later did they see how much support Sanders have which gives even more incentive to replace Hillary since instead of a rebellion you would have a celebration. Interesting stuff this race is. I go Trump all day against Hillary but you throw Sanders in and I vote him so long as he intends to do SOMETHING about this unregulated immigration. Thank goodness the Supreme Court just voted to prevent Obama from allowing Amnesty for any and all who ever came or will come unlawfully.
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cog in the machine.iNcog wrote:lesson
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Smyrna wrote:iwillspankyou wrote:Smyrna wrote:All I know is Hillary Clinton sucks and Donald Trump may be crazy but at least you know where he stands. Bernie should hijack the convention and pull an Abe Lincoln or FDR and steal the nomination. Democrats must know by now that Hillary will NEVER win the election. Bernie would be a great choice.
Tell us more on how to hijack a convention? Any presidency on that? How on earth would you think the super delegates would switch from Shillary to Sanders??
Were you too busy making AOE strats to pay attention in American Government? The Super Delegates have to VOTE in the convention. Until the VOTE AT THE CONVENTION then nothing is set. That means even though on paper Hillary is winning by like 550-600+ delegates (btw, over 500 are SUPER) it is just marks on paper until the REAL vote in July. So, just as what occurred with Abe Lincoln, and FDR (arguably 2 of our best Presidents btw) the Super Delegates, by July, could realize how hopeless the Democrats chances are with Hillary Clinton and instead VOTE for Bernie Sanders which WOULD make him the Democratic presidential candidate and effectively REMOVE HIllary from the race, unless she ran on an independent ticket or something which would not be allowed to happen by the Dems. If even half the Super Delegates voted for Bernie he would get the nomination. Every day that passes I believe it is more a possibility as the Dems hold their behind door strat sessions.
AOE is not the only game of strategy my friend . Study up.
There is nothing new in your comment though. The chance of superdelegates switching to vote on Bernie do not appear to be very realistic. But then again - there is more and more scandals concerning Clintons emails being published these days. One can only hope!
For 2 days ago, Sanders admitted that he wasn't very optimistic of the prospect of being the nominee though.
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