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Mr_Bramboy wrote:This wouldn't have happened if the laws regarding guns were more lenient :/
How many more have to die before people start to realize this? The answer to guns is more guns. I cannot believe people are stupid enough to even consider taking guns away to be a solution. How incredibly brainwashed do you have to be if you believe that nonsense?
+1 if everyone in the night club had a gun this wouldn't have happened! Give everyone guns!
Exactly! Lukas also hits the nail on the head with this one. I cannot imagine how powerless the hostages in Bataclan must've felt without a weapon, just because some fat fucking politician thought it would be a good idea to "PROTECT" "HIS" people. I am so done with this world; how can anyone believe taking away guns promotes safety?!?
The shooter was young, with no criminal record and no history of mental health problems. And yet American conservatives will still insist that the people are the problem, and that easy access to military-grade weapons has nothing to do with it.
Papist wrote:The shooter was young, with no criminal record and no history of mental health problems. And yet American conservatives will still insist that the people are the problem, and that easy access to military-grade weapons has nothing to do with it.
He was on the FBI's radar already for possibly sympathizing with IS though.
People are the problem though. If someone wishes to hurt others they will find a way to do so such as with bombings in European countries with more liberal legislation. Even by restricting gun sales most guns that are used for crimes are purchased illegally, even though this may not be the case for this particular incident. Enjoy your liberal media, and delusional ideas Papist.
The only thing this attack shows is that having legal guns apperantly doesn't really prevent terrorist attacks (trump claimed such a thing about bataclan).
Mvp618 wrote:People are the problem though. If someone wishes to hurt others they will find a way to do so such as with bombings in European countries with more liberal legislation. Even by restricting gun sales most guns that are used for crimes are purchased illegally, even though this may not be the case for this particular incident. Enjoy your liberal media, and delusional ideas Papist.
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Mvp618 wrote:People are the problem though. If someone wishes to hurt others they will find a way to do so such as with bombings in European countries with more liberal legislation. Even by restricting gun sales most guns that are used for crimes are purchased illegally, even though this may not be the case for this particular incident. Enjoy your liberal media, and delusional ideas Papist.
I'm not sure if you guys are joking. You really think more guns are the answer? Would it be a smart idea to have most of the people at any bar getting drunk with pistols? The question is why someone can buy a weapon like the one he used...
I'll leave a great episode by Mr. John Oliver about having gun control laws.
just because something is more dangerous than a gun doesn't mean it's worse. Our society could not function without cars so that's out of the question. We tried banning alcohol and it just made things worse. While I'd be fine with tobacco being banned I'm afraid it would have the same result as banning alcohol. You can't ban something that people are addicted to and expect it to have a positive result. However no one is addicted to guns, and they provide very little, of any, positive impact on our society. In fact the net value of civilian owned guns on our society is probably close to negative 1,000,000 lives if I had to guess.
Well I was not being too serious on the cars and the alcohol even though that cause many more deaths than guns but banning tobacco I think is a worth while pursuit.
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Mvp618 wrote:People are the problem though. If someone wishes to hurt others they will find a way to do so such as with bombings in European countries with more liberal legislation. Even by restricting gun sales most guns that are used for crimes are purchased illegally, even though this may not be the case for this particular incident. Enjoy your liberal media, and delusional ideas Papist.
Keep in mind the number of deaths from mass shootings takes up a relatively negligible amount of deaths that come from shootings or even crimes in general. The idea I'm trying to explain is that if people want to hurt others they will find a way and that banning guns is not a solution to preventing terror attacks and such.
Mvp618 wrote:People are the problem though. If someone wishes to hurt others they will find a way to do so such as with bombings in European countries with more liberal legislation. Even by restricting gun sales most guns that are used for crimes are purchased illegally, even though this may not be the case for this particular incident. Enjoy your liberal media, and delusional ideas Papist.
Keep in mind the number of deaths from mass shootings takes up a relatively negligible amount of deaths that come from shootings or even crimes in general. The idea I'm trying to explain is that if people want to hurt others they will find a way and that banning guns is not a solution to preventing terror attacks and such.
from that article.
About 40 percent said they got it illegally on the black market, from a drug dealer or by stealing it.
So 60% were NOT acquired from the black market or stolen. You're also ignoring the fact that just about every single gun was purchased legally at some point before it arrived in the hands of a criminal
