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Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 08:05
by WickedCossack
Anyone following the TDF this year or just me ?
Predictions?
I think Froome (the guy in the picture) is gonna win it again though Quintana will be real close. Contador is the only other rider that stands a chance tbh. France will be dissapointed again no doubt.
Starts today.
Would also be great to see Sagan pick up a fifth green jersey.
JRod to win polkadots.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 09:53
by momuuu
Is kruijsiwiek participating?
I seem to recall contador wasnt that great in the dauphine but its hard to predict. The tour is so lengthy that most cyclists cant keep top shape for the full three weeks. Last year for example we saw that froome peaked relatively early compared to quintana.
Also, no love for aru?
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 10:08
by WickedCossack
Jerom wrote:Is kruijsiwiek participating?
I seem to recall contador wasnt that great in the dauphine but its hard to predict. The tour is so lengthy that most cyclists cant keep top shape for the full three weeks. Last year for example we saw that froome peaked relatively early compared to quintana.
Also, no love for aru?
Kruijswijk isn't, nor is Gesink. You've got Kelderman for GC though and Groenewegen for the sprints.
Well Aru sucked at the Dauphine even though he won a stage. He could be just copycatting Nibali though with some nice blood bags being taken out pre Dauphine and come good for the Tour. Very hard to tell. But even Aru in top Form can't beat the big 3.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 10:11
by momuuu
Oh so only mollema and dumoulin to root for, meh. Is there one of those paris-roubaix days? We have some cyclists that are decent at that.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 10:25
by WickedCossack
Nah no cobbles this year unfortunately.
I doubt Mollema will do anything as per usual and I'm not sure Dumo is going for GC. I really think Kelderman is your best bet for overall.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 10:36
by momuuu
Well thats less fun then, Kelderman isn't good enough, not better than Mollema. We need our Kruisiwiek.
Is froome actually someone you root for as brit?
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 10:40
by Mimsy for President
Who will be the most 'doped' this year? This noble sport is dead.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 10:51
by sergyou
quintana
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 11:08
by Dolan
Is it going to be again who's got the best doctor with the best lab behind them?
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 12:49
by stronk
I think Quintana will win if he is more agressive. He showed that he is able to beat Froome last year. Contador no way
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 12:59
by WickedCossack
stronk wrote:I think Quintana will win if he is more agressive. He showed that he is able to beat Froome last year. Contador no way
Yea Quintana lacked balls last year and it cost him badly.
Froome is supposedly coming in to be fresher for the 3rd week which if accurate he should win. Quintanas probably better on the real tough mountain stages though of which there are many but I think Froome can take a minute out of him on the Ventoux.
Also jerom I do cheer for Froome, only cause so many people hate him I've come to like him !
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 14:07
by momuuu
I dont cheer for sky movistar katusha astana tinkoff russian and italian cyclists personally, out of anti doping principle.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 10:44
by Goodspeed
Dolan wrote:Is it going to be again who's got the best doctor with the best lab behind them?
Still can be fun to watch. I mean who cares in the end. At least what the doctors are doing is somewhat sophisticated unlike training 10 hours a day and growing muscles. It's a shame we don't get to see what's going on behind the scenes though.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 11:19
by Dolan
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 11:25
by Goodspeed
Yeah I meant the whole game of getting the best possible drug while keeping it undetectable
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 11:28
by Dolan
They just hire very good biochemists and doctors. They're not stupid. They follow all the regulatory committee publications and check which substances are forbidden. Then make sure whatever they are using is either untraceable or its effect is short-lived and it's metabolised fast.
I think I read somewhere once that the guys from the regulatory bodies were amazed to see that cyclists had better professional chemists and doctors than they did. Basically they had top of the top doctors who knew how to dodge biological testing.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 11:30
by WickedCossack
Cavendish won the opening stage.
Good result.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 12:08
by momuuu
Sprints are boring. But well its tour de france so lets watch another 7 identical sprints.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 12:18
by deleted_user0
they should just allow it up to overdose levels. then the best druggee can win the race.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 12:57
by WickedCossack
Jerom wrote:Sprints are boring. But well its tour de france so lets watch another 7 identical sprints.
Well the actual sprint itself is always good, but yea sprint stages in general are the worst type of stage.
Last 1km of stage 1:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4jfvlx_tour-de-france-2016-hd-stage-1-finish_sport?start=991
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 13:32
by iNcog
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Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 14:35
by WickedCossack
It's probably cleaner than 99% of other sports ironically but of course because of the history and how it's all played out ...
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 14:39
by momuuu
Its probably not clean at all given the level of those getting caught and the history of doping users which have been beaten by "clean" cyclists. Its naive to think that our detection methods have improved so much in 5-10 years. We probably just cant detect all sorts of things properly.
A serious question now, will the peleton catch the group of four? Im starting to be doubtful.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 14:40
by WickedCossack
Jerom wrote:Its probably not clean at all given the level of those getting caught and the history of doping users which have been beaten by "clean" cyclists. Its naive to think that our detection methods have improved so much in 5-10 years. We probably just cant detect all sorts of things properly.
My statement was more indicative of how fucked up other sports are rather than how clean cycling is.
Re: Tour de France 2016
Posted: 03 Jul 2016, 14:49
by Mimsy for President
UCI is in cahoots with the cheaters.
